j-frame pocket carry

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Personally I worry less about the standing in front of people, and more about the sitting down part. When I wear light weight pants pocket carry tends to print much more sitting than standing. Sure less people are looking at you then, but its pretty obvious whats in the pocket too.

The LCP will probably conceal the best, but before purchasing i'd go to a shop and drop a scandium j frame in your pocket for comparison.

One thing that will affect concealment a lot is grips. The boot grips that come stock on most of the J frames will conceal well but I'm not so sure about the LCR's grips. Since the LCR is fairly new it may not have many other grip options.

Also someone mentioned a pocket holster that is flat outside and molded inside, my Andrews Leather pocket holster is designed like this. I got mine from his booth at a gun show but believe he ships as well. Just FYI for anyone shopping around.
 
I carry a LCR in a Smart Carry/Thunderwear holster, no problems. If someone notices a bulge there.............................. male= Pervert.............Female=:D
 
CHL in business casual and under scrutiny

Quoheleth:

My SW 442 with lg-405 crimson trace laser grips (two finger laser grips) goes everywhere with me in my front right pocket in a pocket holster.

At work, I wear business casual with a tucked in shirt. I wear suit quality pants and all the way button down shirts. Based on my body type I have a nearly impossible time concealing anything other than a Smith and Wesson 442 in business casual. I spend an enormous amount of time in front of clients both standing, sitting in other people's offices and sitting and standing in boardrooms. In my line of work my appearance and what I say are always under scrutiny in the boardroom.

Based on this I go to great lengths to conceal my j frame. Here are a few pointers on concealing in business casual.

1. I wear my wallet and keys in my left pocket. This gets people subconsciously accustomed to seeing something in my pockets
and makes the slight bulge of my weapon in my other pocket look natural and not out of place.

2. Only use two finger grips that do not extend past the frame of the firearm. If you do not, you risk having the butt of the revolver jutting out past your pocket.

3. Get a quality gunleather belt that looks natural in business casual. Galco works great for me. Buy them in a shade of leather that closely matches your shoes so that you simply look like you choose to wear only the highest quality of garments and leather. Instead of looking like a potential gun nut you just appear as a fastiduous dresser.

4. Pay great attention to your pant selection. Especially pay attention to the color/patterning of your pants, pocket depths, and pocket constrution. In higher end pant suit quality slacks I find that brooks brothers works perfectly when purchased in Navy and charcoal. Khaki and grey coloring does not work as well.
a. Darker colors conceal better. In solid colors Navy and charcoal work great. If you're dress code permits and it matches the fashion choices in your profession a little patterning or pin stripes work even better. Khakhi, grey and other light solid colors are harder to conceal in. If your dress code limits you to khakis try to puchase a darker color of khaki made of a thicker material and you should be fine.
b. Pay attention to pocket depth. When purchasing new pants bring your firearm, gun belt, and pocket holster with you and try it on with your pants and make sure that it works. Pay attention to ensure that the pocket is deep enough to fully conceal the firearm while seated and standing without revealing the butt of the weapon.
c. Pay attention to pocket construction. In business casual straight pockets generally conceal better. If you choose pants with angled pockets, you will want to ensure that you have particularly deep pants. When shopping check to make sure that in bussiness casual the butt won't stick out while seated, standing, standing up, or running across a street.

5. Get a quality pocket holster. it will break up the pattern of the weapon, so that when someone sees a bulge they will think that it is a wallet, checkbook, pda or other common item. I have, and frequently use pocket holsters by uncle mike's, galco and mika's. I presently use a hand made mika's holster.

6. Practice carrying the weapon at home to get comftorable with it prior to taking it to the boardroom.

7. Avoid favoring the weapon, holding onto it, etc. This draws attentino to it. If you do for some reason make it look like a natural action such as putting your hand in your pocket to look for change or a business card.

8. When concealment is of the utmost concern, avoid three finger grips on the j-frame for pocket carry. They tend to stick out of pockets on rare occasion. This has never been a problem for me with any two finger grip in any pocket on any type of pants. If you elect to carry a three finger grip and the butt for whatever reason jutts out. Do not respond to it continue doing whatever it is you are doing. Most people are so out to lunch they won't observe it unless you draw attention to it by doing something awkward or favoring it.

As parting words, I have been carrying in a business casual enviornment under the scrutiny of a professional position for three years and have never been discovered.

I hope that this helps you.
 
I don't like pocket carry in general because the gun always seems to print and when seated, it gets worse and also becomes difficult to get to. A smart carry might work for you. I found a company that sells khaki's that have two hip pockets on the right side. They're a bit pricey but work well for pocket carry. Not so sure 'teton twill' option would go with a fine suit jacket but they'd work for 'office casual'.

http://mountainkhakis.com/handler.cfm?cat_id=19807&cat_id=19883
 
+1 on the Smart Carry. If deep concealment is a must, this is the way to do it. I carried an M&P Compact (not a thin or light gun) in a Smart Carry for a long time and never once got noticed. This included time spent standing in front of people that are sitting down. A nice thing about the Smart Carry is that with a gun the size of a J-Frame, it will be rather comfortable. Also, most people don't stare at your groin, and if they do think they see something there, they aren't likely to speak up about it.

My one piece of advice with the Smart Carry and dress pants is to buy pants with the pleats that run down from the waistband in-between the pockets. The butt of my M&P used to fall right at that pleat and it really covered it perfectly. Also, make sure you wear a belt and blouse your shirt over the front and sides a little. Your gun will completely disappear.
 
I wear dress slacks or khakis. I shop for pants that have a deep enough pocket, and if needed, use iron on patches to reinforce it.

Good point. In fact, I noticed the other day that my favorite cargo shorts have worn a small hole through the pocket ... so I may try the iron on patches.

If you pockets aren't deep enough, consider sewing in an extension to make them deeper. To me, pocket depth is the only big concern with pocket carrying a J Frame.

With a good holster it will only look like a large wallet. And honestly, no one will notice, unless they are staring at your groin or something. :D

That said, I'm not worried so much about printing as NC is an open carry state.
 
I can, and have, carried my 642 in a pocket holster in dress slacks. However, I do feel that it sticks out too much, prints too much, and is a bit too obvious.

So I bought a P32 and then a P3AT, and I carry one of those - exclusively - anytime I'm wearing dress slacks now.

If I'm wearing jeans or loose fitting khakis, I go back to my 642. But while I'm at work wearing suit pants or dress slacks, I always go with the smaller and lighter Kel-Tecs.
 
I have 4 J frames and all can easily be carried in your pocket. They look no larger in your pocket than a wallet or any of the other stuff people carry these days.
 
I pocket carry a 642 when my pants are on. It's a tad heavy for summer/ lightweight dress pants, but does work well. It just swings a bit, sort of like having a rock in your pocket.

It works GREAT in khakis.

I carry mine in a FIST pocket holster. I have been doing so for well over five years. Nary a problem.


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Certainly, if one wears say, 'Disco' Pants which appear virtually painted on, then bulges or 'printing' is infinitely more an issue, than if one wears ample, even 'baggy' Trousers...and heavier fabric of course is also a plus.


Iron-on patches or other Pocket re-inforcement can be applied to the inside and bottoms of Pockets, in case this was not clear...


Neglected also anymore, are various Colts, such as the 'Police Positive', which were no larger than the J-Frame S & W, but, in the case of the Police Positive Special in .38 Special, hold "Six" rounds instead of 'five'.


Rare as 'snubbies', they none-the-less are very easy to make into a Bobbed Hammmer Snubby from whatever Barrel Length they happen to have been.


Again, a simple ordinary Business Envelope, folded in half, or a Post Card or similar, placed between a front Trouser Pocket Revolver and the outer Pocket Cloth, will pretty well obviate any 'printing' as such.
 
I carry a model 60 in a front pocket holster whenever I need to be tucked in. This includes while working and going into places where they would be totally freaked out if they knew I was carrying. If it was known that I was carrying, it would cost me business which I can't afford to lose. No one has ever said a thing to me about it.
 
I pocket carry an S&W Model 36 in a Desantis Nemesis all of the time. It looks like I've got a wallet or Palm Pilot in my pocket. It doesn't look like a gun.
 
That said, I'm not worried so much about printing as NC is an open carry state.

just remember that Open Carry is just that...openly carrying. It's not partially concealed...

Back on point. I've absolutely fallen in love with the CrossBreed Super Tuck. With black pants and a black belt, the j-hooks disappear. I carry an officer's model 1911 and forget it's there. It is very "tuckable" for your dress shirts as well. I have one for my j-frame as well that I would wear every day if the .45 weren't so comfortable.
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/
 
I carry a 442 in a Desantis Nemesis daily. When I'm wearing dress pants at church, I just carry one in each pocket to be symetrical.
 
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