jennings nine

[Kiln]

I am over at the Bryco/Jennings/Jimenez forums. The guys there (all of them) will dissuade you from buying them because the life spans measure in hundreds of rounds, not thousands. The frames often fail near the safety and the mag release.

As far as the firing out of battery, the Hi Point can and has done this as well, resulting in serious injury. I've sern reports (with pics) on the Hi Point forum where people had property damage and one guy shot himself hand cycling live ammo.

The problem is that at the end of the slide stroke the firing pin pushes on the primer of the cartridge, working as an ejector and with spent rounds this works fine. Rack the slide with enough force on a live round though and when the firing pin tries to eject the brass it sometimes (rarely but it's something to be aware of) can strike the firing pin hard enough to fire the gun out of battery.

The design needs to be updated for obvious reasons but when your price point is below $150 new, you don't dump much intp changes to the design.

 

[Deus Machina]

The big problem here is that the design would work on a gun made from steel, or even aluminum alloys, if it were designed in the 70's. But not modern stuff.
And even then, it would need better quality control.

I'm a big fan of cheap stuff that works, or can be made to work, but certain parts just seriously need half-decent control and manageable materials. It would be one thing if they wore out quickly, it's another when the design actually promotes abusive wear.

If you're going to make something cheaply, from cheap materials, it needs to be designed for it.

Keep it hidden under a bathroom sink or something as a last-ditch weapon. After seeing failures from frame rails, slides, and spring points, it's only worth it if the alternative is trying to sharpen a faucet handle.

 

[Kiln]

The big problem here is that the design would work on a gun made from steel, or even aluminum alloys, if it were designed in the 70's. But not modern stuff.
And even then, it would need better quality control.

I'm a big fan of cheap stuff that works, or can be made to work, but certain parts just seriously need half-decent control and manageable materials. It would be one thing if they wore out quickly, it's another when the design actually promotes abusive wear.

If you're going to make something cheaply, from cheap materials, it needs to be designed for it.

Keep it hidden under a bathroom sink or something as a last-ditch weapon. After seeing failures from frame rails, slides, and spring points, it's only worth it if the alternative is trying to sharpen a faucet handle.

I love it when I see people post stuff like this.

There are no frame rails on the Bryco, Davis, or Lorcin guns. They're all designs that count on the barrel and a takedown catch to keep the slide on the frame.

 

[Monac]

I love it when I see people post stuff like this.

There are no frame rails on the Bryco, Davis, or Lorcin guns. They're all designs that count on the barrel and a takedown catch to keep the slide on the frame.

That surprised me to read, but a quick Google search showed that Kiln is right. I also found a couple of interesting pictures of Jennings 9mm frames in the forum Kiln mentioned in his earlier post:

http://www.bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10870

 

[Deus Machina]

I love it when I see people post stuff like this.

There are no frame rails on the Bryco, Davis, or Lorcin guns. They're all designs that count on the barrel and a takedown catch to keep the slide on the frame.

I stand corrected, then.
My CCW instructor showed one to demonstrate why it was worth spending money on a better gun. I was actually thinking of cracks like that; I didn't remember it didn't have actual rails.

 

[tarosean]

A few years ago there was an incident with one of those guns at a local range. The gun was on the bench, loaded, but facing sideways (poor form, I know). No one within 3 feet of the gun.
It fires off a round and hits the person in the next lane.

If thats the one in Lakeland FL close to 10yrs ago, it shot 3 people.

 

[Jim K]

It is not common, but it can happen with the older design striker fired pistols. If the firing pin lug cracks (often from dry firing), the spring pressure when the gun is cocked can break off the lug entirely and if the chamber is loaded the gun will fire. The most notorious offender in that regard was not the Lorcin and similar guns but the old Dreyse pistol.

Modern striker designs have a firing pin lock to prevent the firing pin from moving forward unless the trigger is back.

Jim

 

[MICHAEL T]

If my brother in law. Gave me one. I would file for a divorce . Seems I made a mistake of marrying in to a family that has the village idiot .