John Moses Browning Picture Thread

[iamkris]

WW-II RemRand 1911A1



Winchester 1890



Buncha 1911s and a Hi Power



97 scattergun in there



M1919A4



Win 92 and 94 in the group

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

iamkris,

what model lever-action is that bottom one in the last pic (the one with the bigger loop). that's cool

 

[yakkingallover]

Am I wrong or should the 1873 Winchester be on that list also? didn't see any pics and nno mention in this thread but I thought it was one of JMB's?

 

[Jim Watson]

No.
The 1873 was a development of the original Volcanic - Henry - Winchester 1866 - 1873 - 1876 series of toggle breech actions going way back to the Hunt-Jennings-Wesson designs.
The Browning patent 1892, 1886, 1894, 1895 rifles are much stronger and generally more compact and lighter, too.

 

[CSA 357]

1912 winchester?

 

[Jim Watson]

Nope.
Designed by Thomas Crossley Johnson after Mr Browning broke off relations with Winchester because they would not give him the deal he wanted for the A5 auto shotgun.
Wiki says he had 124 patents assigned to Winchester, which would have made him famous if not overshadowed by Mr Browning... and John Pedersen.

 

[iamkris]

iamkris,

what model lever-action is that bottom one in the last pic (the one with the bigger loop). that's cool

Thanks...I like it too. Just got it.

It's a Marlin 1895 GBL. 6 rounds of .45-70 in the tube, 1 up the pipe. 18" barrel and laminate stock. The former owner put on a set of XS ghost rings sights.

I like it...makes me want to go hog or bear hunting.

 

[dogtown tom]

Full Metal Jacket:...yep, john browning sold the patent to FN, and actually died in france when he was working with FN in Belgium on producing it.

FN went on to alter the design before production, after browning's death. had browning lived to see production, it prob would have been a nicer gun (prob wouldn't have that stupid mag safety that gives it a 20lb trigger pull, or the HP hammer bite...)

Close......but not quite.
JMB learned a valuable lesson after selling his first design to Winchester. He didn't "sell" his patents, he licensed their production. In 1896, Colt for example bought the exclusive rights to produce Browning handgun designs in the USA, Great Britain and Ireland. Fabrique Nationale got the exclusive rights to Belgium, France, Austria Hungary and Spain (the rest of the world was a free for all) In the 1920's Colt territories were expanded to everything north of the Panama Canal Zone, FN got all of continental Europe except for GB & Ireland. The last of these licensing agreements expired in the '50's.

JMB died of a heart attack in his son's office at FN (in Belgium, not France). While not technically an employee of FN, JMB maintained an office at FN.

As to whether the Hi Power would have been "a nicer gun".......you need to see the horrible monstrosity that JMB left Saive to fix. Regarding the magazine disconnect.......that was a result of a request by the French, much like similiar requests by the U.S. Army on the 1911 design.

 

[ejbrush]

Speaking of John Pedersen...

the Remington Model 17 was the product of a collaboration between Pedersen and Browning. The precursor to the Model 17 was the Model 10, which was wholly a Pedersen design.
Just making sure credit is given where due.

 

[coop923]

Better have this one in here:

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[Tinpig]

Here's what I've collected over the years. I use them all. Don't much care for the .25ACP...the rest are perfection.


Tinpig

 

[sawdeanz]

coop, what model is that? It looks really neat!

 

[monkyboy1975]

Stevens 520 20GA


My wife's shotgun.

 

[coop923]

coop, what model is that? It looks really neat!

It's a Remington Model 8. Mine is in .35 Remington. I think they were in production from 1906-1936 IIRC. This one shoots great!

 

[Morgo]

 

[ATBackPackin]

This Colt 1903 in .32acp is the only one I have now. I will eventually get a 1911 and a Winchester 94, but not sure which caliber yet.

 

[Rembrandt]

The greatest shotgun of all....the Superposed.



1911....

High Power....

The legendary M2.....

 

[Drail]

Wow, you can clearly see how bad that dust is over there in the sandbox in that last photo. Keeping weapons functioning would be a full time job.

 

[Blown6L]

The 1885.
A 22LR. Restored.

A 25/20 Single Shot. Destine to be a wall hanger

An Uberti copy in 45/70.

 

[awgrizzly]

Here's a Woodsman (pre actually)

 

[pump .22s]

What about the Remington 241 auto...the upgrade to the model 24 auto?

 

[wundudnee]

Winchester Thumbtrigger
1902
1904
Model 36 .9mm shotgun



1906s &1890s




Bottom is 1897 solidframe