Joined the Concealed Carry Ranks Today

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After much procrastination, I finally obtained my pistol permit yesterday to allow me to carry concealed (I had put in the application a couple of months back... it takes 4-6 weeks they say).

So today I got to try it out. I went to the local indoor range to brush up on my shooting a bit since it has been a while. I took my M&P .45c, and my Ruger LCR, because those are the two candidates I'm looking at for carry. Also have a Glock21, but aside from the size, I've decided that the grip just doesn't fit me well (it squirms in my hands too much when my hands are damp; and, I pull shots off to the side).

I didn't CC to the range itself because I wasn't sure if they let you take out a CCW at the firing line and shoot it or not (and I forgot to ask before I left, but I'll find out later).

I actually had a pretty good session with both the LCR and M&P. This also confirmed that shooting the M&P comes more easily to me than the Glock21. I was making good hits in the bullseye area whereas with the Glock I always pull the shots off towards the palm side (right or left handed shooting).

Anyway, upon leaving the range I had to go by my parents' house to take care of some stuff while they're away, so while I was there I holstered up the M&P inside the waistband and added a spare mag in an old leather knife holster on the opposite side. My t-shirt was long enough, but when I was doing stuff outside it felt like it kept trying to ride up over the gun. I wasn't so much worried about printing as I was about the shirt coming up without me noticing. It was long enough but I think it needed to be more baggy so that it would stay down and not cling.

Also, when I got back in the car to leave, I realized that the gun was almost too big to allow me to sit comfortably in the seat, due to the seat side bolsters ('07 Mustang). If I slid the gun forward just a bit then it would rest against the bolster without actually digging into it, so I think that'll work. It does look like the M&P is the biggest grip gun I can carry and still fit well in the seat though.

All in all, went well and I learned a couple of things. Also, I'm still considering changing to another gun to carry. I like the M&P but the low capacity kind of bugs me. It'd be nice to stick with .45 auto, since that's what I'm already invested in, but if it turns out that a 9mm gun really is better for me, then I'll switch. I'll be looking at a Glock30 IF the grip is any improvement over the 21, and maybe a full-sized M&P .45, but there again, sitting in the car may be an issue.

Side note on the LCR. I had thought to pocket carry it, but in jeans it just prints way too much, even with a pocket holster. It might work if I had bigger thighs, but it's a no-go for me. Cargo pants or shorts with larger, baggy pockets might work. I may also look for an IWB holster for it. I had thought to use it for a back-up but the plan is still evolving....
 
Welcome to the concealed carriers of America. Hope you never have to actually pull it out.
 
You say the "low capacity" of the M&P bugs you but what is the capacity of what you are carrying right now? ZERO! I carry a J frame revolver and I'm comfortable with 5 rounds but of course you have the right to feel differently. Also, if the gun is not comfortable when you sit find a different holster that is comfortable.

I'm glad to hear you are using your God given right to protect yourself and those around you. Good for you! BTW, where do you live that you had to wait months for a carry license? Where I live it takes less than a half hour to walk out of the Sheriff's office with your license. They verify your identity, verify you are not a criminal and have no pending cases and then take your picture and issue the carry license. That's how law abiding citizens should be treated.
 
You say the "low capacity" of the M&P bugs you but what is the capacity of what you are carrying right now? ZERO! I carry a J frame revolver and I'm comfortable with 5 rounds but of course you have the right to feel differently. Also, if the gun is not comfortable when you sit find a different holster that is comfortable.

I'm glad to hear you are using your God given right to protect yourself and those around you. Good for you! BTW, where do you live that you had to wait months for a carry license? Where I live it takes less than a half hour to walk out of the Sheriff's office with your license. They verify your identity, verify you are not a criminal and have no pending cases and then take your picture and issue the carry license. That's how law abiding citizens should be treated.

Regarding the license, rumor has it that the Sheriff (or someone involved) deliberately drags out the process as long as possible. I have no idea if that's true or not.

However, in the county next to us, the process works as you describe. You basically get your license the same day you apply once they run the checks on you. (we have to supply three references too btw) Unfortunately, I couldn't just get a license from the neighboring county because it has to be one's home county.
 
It ALWAYS takes a while to work out what will work for you. Gun, holster, clothes, CCW location, etc. Enjoy the quest and good luck on finding what is really best for you and your situation.
 
Welcome to the club!

I'm gonna be helping my friend through the process here in VA soon, he just bought his first handgun yesterday and hopefully we'll get him to the range this week and show him the ropes. He's got a good head on his shoulders, I'm confident he'll be fine.

Unless the range has signs saying otherwise (example, my range has a sign that says no loaded guns allowed inside) I assume it's ok to CCW inside and draw it from the firing line. Ain't got yelled at yet, though it never hurts to ask.

And if you want a reasonably sized .45, you'll have to learn to live with a lowish capacity mag. Everyone has their own comfort level and I won't say they're wrong or I'm right, but I'm comfortable with 7 or 8 rounds of .45ACP (or even 5 rounds of .38!).

Oh, and consider trying out some different holster styles to get a little more comfortable. A good holster can go a long way towards making you feel like you aren't even carrying a gun, a bad holster just makes you want to say "screw it" and leave the gun at home.
 
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What, no WalMart walk? ;)

Hawaiian style shirts are your best friend.


One step at a time! ;)


Luckily the weather's getting cooler, which allows for a jacket to help with concealment.

I can't see myself wearing Hawaiian shirts though! LOL!


The capacity thing is just kind of a nagging doubt. I know people carry those little .380s with 7 (?) rounds and call it good. Or a 5-shot snub. It just seems that lately the bad guys are attacking in groups now of at least two, or three. But on the other hand, I bet that in such a case one might not have time to fire off all 15 rounds or whatever anyway. I know there's no one "answer" to the dilemma but I'd like to at least try a couple of 9mm and see if there's anything that clicks for me. I like the LCR so that'll probably stay as a backup gun if possible.
 
Stress Test,
The only one who cares about a small bulge under your shirt is you. 99.99% of the people out there don't look at anyone else and even if you were carrying openly they wouldn't notice. Just give it a little time and you won't feel like anyone is looking at you or noticing you're carrying because they have no idea...
 
Welcome to the club. You'll adjust in time. It's not nearly as noticeable as you think. I was doing yard work with the neighbor while carrying, and he didn't notice.
 
Stress Test,
The only one who cares about a small bulge under your shirt is you. 99.99% of the people out there don't look at anyone else and even if you were carrying openly they wouldn't notice. Just give it a little time and you won't feel like anyone is looking at you or noticing you're carrying because they have no idea...
So true, I carried in front of my son in law for about a month without him ever noticing a thing. After while, I couldn't stand it any longer and showed him what he never noticed. I have found the only people that notice are other people that carry.
 
Time and a good holster and you will not have to worry.


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I'm still considering changing to another gun to carry. I like the M&P but the low capacity kind of bugs me. It'd be nice to stick with .45 auto, since that's what I'm already invested in, but if it turns out that a 9mm gun really is better for me, then I'll switch. I'll be looking at a Glock30 IF the grip is any improvement over the 21, and maybe a full-sized M&P .45, but there again, sitting in the car may be an issue.
IMO if you don't like the grip on a G21, you won't like the one on the G30. It’s basically the same circumference (that's why it can use G21 mags), but shorter and thus harder to grip than the G21. The single-stack G36 is much smaller around but only holds 6+1 rounds (even less than the M&P .45c). IMO the G36 also works better for IWB carry, as its a bit slimmer in the slide/frame than the G30.

If I was concerned about number of rounds, I would have no problem going with a Glock 26 or even a Glock 19 for CCW. I feel with modern, high velocity JHPs that the 9mm just isn't giving up much in terms of effectiveness to the .40 or .45 anymore (even though I do love my .45s!).
 
It just seems that lately the bad guys are attacking in groups now of at least two, or three.

Pretty sure that's been the case since the dawn of assault/robbery, etc.

Read some Ayoob files, real life circumstances and outcomes.

I'm comfortable with whatever I choose to carry on a particular day, capacity ranges from 5-7-8-9-17. I prefer single stacks due being slimmer, but occasionally toss the 92 in the IWB.
 
I carry a J frame revolver and I'm comfortable with 5 rounds but of course you have the right to feel differently
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+1 for the J Frame. Since I'm not an active or retired police officer, I figure the chances of me getting into an extended shootout with multiple bad guys is very remote.

But I do admit that I am seriously considering purchasing a Glock 26 for carry. (Seriously considering = trying to convince the wife I need to spend the money... :) )
 
Im a scrawny 21yo who can conceal a full size GI 1911.
I carry in a crossbreed supertuck at 4:30 or 5:00 I wear button down casual dress shirts, and its become a habit to just check my shirt tail and pull it down. Sometimes it is down, sometimes my 1911 has snagged it. When I am standing straight up, no one can see the gun by its placement it conforms to my body.

1911 only carries 7 rounds. Hates JHP, so I carry FMJ.
I am going to switch to my CZ75B which carries 16 rds of Winchester Ranger Bonded JHP.
 
1911 only carries 7 rounds. Hates JHP, so I carry FMJ.

I am going to switch to my CZ75B which carries 16 rds of Winchester Ranger Bonded JHP.
Most 1911's can use the newer 8 round magazines so you can have a total of 9 rounds ready in a 1911. (8+1) When I do carry a 1911 (very rarely) that's how I carry, with 9 rounds...
 
Welcome to the club. You will get more comfortable with the process over time. You will find the right rig for you and it will become second nature. Don't overlook the importance of a good belt, no a really good belt, it makes all the difference. As for the Hawaiin shirts, do what works for you. Dark grey or black untucked t-shirts and sweater type shirts when the weather changes work just fine for me and I blend in with the crowd whereas I would stand out with a Hawaiin print shirt. I was in the grocery store the other day and a guy walked in wearing a "photographer's" vest. To those of us who know about such things, it took mere moments for me to figure out which side his gun was on.

So just get out there and practice and you will find what works for you. And while we are talking about practice, please, please please, practice drawing, clearing jams,changing mags, etc.

Stay safe.
 
Most 1911's can use the newer 8 round magazines so you can have a total of 9 rounds ready in a 1911. (8+1) When I do carry a 1911 (very rarely) that's how I carry, with 9 rounds...
My 8 round mag causes nose-dives and severe bullet setback.

Our boys carried 7 rounds in the war, it worked for them, works for me too!

Trebor- I read all of your series when I first got my permit, very well written and good stuff! (Except the part about carrying a Hungarian PPK knockoff, that hurt my PA-63's feelings, and she carried just fine, nice and small.)
 
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