JP Sauer 1913

[Grey Morel]

I was reading up on these pistols online after seeing one in a local shops used handgun case.

It is the long barrel, 32 caliber version.

Bluing is about 50%, but it looks to be in good mechanical condition. The shop has a range attached, so I would be able to test-fire it before purchase to verify function.

Other than the bluing, the only condition problems are the grips. They are simple wood grips with no logos or serial numbers, and they have some serious scratches. I can get replacement original grips for about $30 online, so im not too worried about that.

The shops wants $109 for the gun. Is that a fair price?

 

[Storm]

What condition is the bore in. If I's good I'd jump on it. I own the .32 and .25 versions.

 

[Grey Morel]

The barrel on this one is unusual long. It makes it look like a ray gun. The finish and condition of the barrel is consistent with the overall gun, so i believe it to be original.

The barrel has to be 4" long, as it protrudes from the end of the slide by several inches. I looked through a dozen pages of pictures, and I didn't see any long barreled 1913's. Whats up with this thing?

 

[sauerfan]

Hi GreyMorel,

as already posted on the gunboards forum:

is this really a 1913? What’s the serial number? With the SN I could tell you what variation it is, and so on.

I never have heard of a 1913 with a barrel that long. Maybe, there are Austrian proofs present? I’m asking, because this could explain the long barrel, as the Austrians had an odd gun law before 1938: pistols with a total length under 18 centimeters (app. 7”) required a special permit, while pistols with a lengths over 18 cm were free to buy for everyone. So, you find in Austria e. g. FN model 1906 vest pocket pistols with extremely long barrels.

Regarding the grips: if it is really a 1913 then grips will be a serious issue. The 1913 grips have a pivotable locking bar on the back which are riveted to the screw (see image). Repro grips don’t have the locking bar attachment, so you’ll have to find original grips.

Regards

Martin

 

[Grey Morel]

Thanks Sauerfan. Conversation moved back to gunboards.