Just bought a Remmington 1858 New army Police .36 cal

[bigbadgun]

I just got the deal of a lifetime at the gun show I bought a 1858 Remmington New Army Police .36 cal Pietta for $100 brand new unfired cherry gun what a deal now I gotta find time to go to the range and hide it from the wife LOL

 

[Donny]

Bigbadgun,

I have the same gun, I love mine its a good shooter. The 36 remmy can hold 28 grains of powder. I have chronnied mine with 27 grains of pyrodex P and a 80 grain ball. I clocked it at over 1100 feet per second with an energy over 200 ft lbs. I wouldn't hesitate to use it as a carry gun.

Don

 

[Roswell 1847]

I just got the deal of a lifetime

Got that beat, my two best revolvers were given to me, one in exchange for cleaning up another C&B revolver both of which had been given to the fellow who gave me one for the half hour of work it took to put his in shooting condition. The other was a Brass framed .44 junker the owner gave me just to get rid of it when I told him it was only good as a parts gun. That one I repaired and customized by making a new cylinder arbor with a locking shoulder and turned a matching shoulder inside the rear openng in the Cylinder, rethreaded the frame which hadn't cracked just pulled through and made it more solid by silver soldering the threads. That one had failed because the original cylinder pin had been poorly threaded, undersized and rounded threads, Since the barrel was a mess I cut it down to three inches and I've found it suprizingly accurate for a belly gun.

I switched out the backstraps and one piece grips because those on the 51 Navy were undersized and not well shaped. Now the undersized grips compliment the abrieviated barrel of the .44 nicely, and the full sized grips, now full coverage 22 lines per inch checkering, make the Navy much better in the hand.
Total Monetary value invested in both guns is probably less than five bucks, Plenty of elbow grease and thought expended but that is the fun part.

The .36 Remingtons come in a few closely related styles, a friend has an original called a Remington Beals Belt gun. Theres the .36 Remington Navy size as well which has just a hair shorter barrel I think, otherwise about the same frame as the New Army.

 

[JayC]

Pictures please!

 

[Roswell 1847]

Heres some info on the Remington Beal Belt pistols.

The 1858 Remington-Beals, the predecessor to the "1858 New Model" Army, which began production in 1861

"The first large-framed revolvers made by E. Remington & sons were based on "Beals" 1858 patent, collectors call these first revolvers "Beals" models. About 2,000 were made in the army model, and slightly more in the "Navy" model. The army was .44 cal, with an 8" barrel while the navy model was in .36 cal with a 7 3/8" barrel. They differed quite a bit from the "New model 1858" Remington repros we commonly see today.



First of all the loading lever was more squared off, and the round part longer. The "web" portion being shorter. The hammers had higher "spurs", and the metal on top of the frame just behind the hammer was about a quarter inch longer. The frame came all the way back to the end of the barrel, so no barrel thread were showing. They all also had German silver cone-shaped, dovetailed front sights. They did not have "safety notches" in the cylinder, otherwise, looked very similar to the modern reproductions."

Tom Ball

Photos showing the differences are found here.
http://casguns.homestead.com/Rem_1858.html

 

[bigbadgun]

Very interesting Mr Roswell, but like I said this is a brand new gun fresh in the box no lead thru the barrel but yes you did get a great deal on the 2 from that deal. I well post pics as soon as I find my damn camera.

 

[.44walkersabot]

Ya'll got some good deals...Okay...

 

[bigbadgun]

Pics

God I love gun shows. And here is the pic I told you i would post.

 

[Shawnee]

Hi BigBad...

Sure looks like a well-spent $100-bill to me !!

 

[Roswell 1847]

And here is the pic

Very nice. I can see that its shorter and handier than the Remington navy .36. Good belt pistol and deserves a nice period western holster.
A couple of spare cylinders kept handy and you can reload one of those much faster than an SAA and nearly as quickly as a swing out cylinder pistol.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Who made that revolver? It's a really nice one from what I can see in the picture...

 

[bigbadgun]

ok here is a holster I made i put it on my gun belt tied it down and I was surprised how fast I could bring it into action. It handles so well it surprised me. I was able to get my 16 and 17 year old boys to try the fast draw and they were surprised. I do not do cowboy action or any of that stuff but it is nice to see just how fast I can get it clear.

ArchAngelCD the maker is Pietta the timming is perfect on it, it is a very well made little pistol.

My wife even wants to shot it she does not like the BP pistols but this one may be the turning point for her lol.

Dont get me wrong I have a deep love affair with my Colts but this is a really nice little pistol.I am very impressed with this revolver.The way it points the way it handles cant wait to take it to the range and do some testing with it.
being a .36 cal I have no experience with it what is the best load for this thing I usually buy only .44 cal any help please.

Thanks for all the good comments folks.

 

[mykeal]

Is this the .36 cal Remington with the 6 1/2" barrel that Cabela's calls a "New Army Police"?

I have a Pietta .36 cal 1858 Remington New Navy with a 7 1/2" barrel. I use 20 gr FFFg Goex under a lubed felt wad and a 0.375 round ball. If you have the shorter barrel you'll need to adjust that a little for best accuracy.

And congratulations, that is a very good deal. Well done.

 

[bigbadgun]

Thanks and yes it is. I just about fell on the floor trying to get my wallet out when he said $100. My 16 year old son was with me and said if i dont buy it he was never gonna talk to me again lol.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Midway is selling them for $242 so you did VERY well for $100. I haven't bought a BP revolver yet but looking at that model, it might be my first.