Just did a full Karate class with my CCW!

[PCRCCW]

I didnt mean to either. Its my sons first night of Karate...so I go in and sit down in the corner..he's got his Gi on and is looking quite cool
He talks to the instructor and the Sefoo (spelling?, chinese for sensa')
Says...you took Tai Kwon Dao? Um...er, ....ya? 25 years ago...why?
Well your son wants you to do the class with us so you can help him at home....(Its the 4th week of class and its his first, so hes behind).......

Im thinking "Oh S%*T"....Jess, can I talk to you for a minute?????PLEASE....
The other Sefoo...grabs my arm, puts me in a corner and checks out my stances/blocks etc....gives me the thumbs up.

I tell you guys....this "Kids class" would have put my private teacher to shame or I could just be getting old

Anyway...I do a freaking 1 1/2 hr class..including full spinning back kicks in FRONT OF THE ENTIRE CLASS..parents, Instructors and students...with my CCW gun on.

After it was over the Sefoo came over and says...you need to come later on in the night..to the adult class. Told me what I did right (surprisingly alot) and what I need practice on (alot more )..and asked me why I didnt do the chinese sit ups?......"Well ....I have my CCW on me!" He says...."Where?" So I take him around the corner and show him.

Mind you, this was not an NAA Guardian in a pocket holster or a PM Kahr, but my loaner SIG 220 ST carried IWB with 2 full mags on the other side of my belt!

The Sefoo has his permit and wants a holster....."just like the one I wore in class"......LOL.

BTW...if you go with your kids to Karate Class....dont bring your CCW!

Shoot well

 

[Zundfolge]

So I assume it was one of your holsters?


Ya know, we hear from antis that if you want to defend yourself you should just learn a martial art ... but here we have a master martial artist and he's gonna carry

 

[PCRCCW]

Zun,

Yep...he's not a master..like a junior master. I dont know the Chinese terms...but he's quite good and could easily break every bone in my body! Anyway, he has his permit and a Kahr he likes alot...good taste in guns.

I think martial arts would do nicely in certain situations...Im sure we all feel that way. But, I dont care what anyone, on any level, would say about how "karate beats a gun everytime"...Id have to check their forehead to see if they had a fever

Id say it proves this guy is very smart and wants to be prepared, regardless of what life throws at him.

Shoot well..............

 

[Zundfolge]

Your story reminded me of a web site I found a long time ago ... I had to dig through my unsorted bookmarks to find it.

I'm not sure its serious ... but its an entertaining read; http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mahoutsukai/archive/pistol.html

 

[Walosi]

My sons were quite active back when I was young enough to participate (better at sitting in the corner, but I did participate). The started with Shorenji Kempo. Big brother wound up in Tae Kwan Do and is active after 20 years in the army. Little brother left the air force after 16 years, and wound up studying Arnese for the past ten years. His instructor, a reserve Lt., also headed his citys' SRT. His advice for self defense in a life threatening situation is "JSTF"...Just Shoot The...er...Fellow. Advanced martial artists are, above all, practical. A Sifu with a carry piece is as natural as a tree with leaves. He also shows this by watching your moves, learning you were heeled, and making an instant decision as to the value of your carry mode. When is mine shipping, by the way?

 

[Illuminate]

Zund, that reminds me of "Equilibrium".

 

[Aikibiker]

I know a guy with 40-50 years experience in Aikido and black belts in Judo, Jujitsu, and Karate before that. The man is dangerous with his bare hands. He always carries and has very strong pro RKBA views. He said he learned the results of an unarmed populace during the Korean war.

 

[PCRCCW]

Walosi...today/tomorrow. Dye is getting here this morning.....

Its a natural thing IMO, for a SiFu (thanks for the spelling) to have a CCW.
He's a pretty nice guy.....Great sense of 'how things should be" also...after class I kept calling hi SiFu...he said..."Now, you can call me Scott!"...ok, Scott.

Shoot well.....................

 

[Smoke]

Kinda like this guy.........

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Greg is an expert Martial Artist, with a Master Level Degree in Universal Shotokan and Shotokan karate, and Black Belt degrees in Aikido, Kendo, and Judo. Greg has been teaching Martial Arts for over 25 years.

Greg is a member of the Defensive Tactics Institute, Bushido Federation of Japanese Martial Arts, and a life member of the Okinawan karate-do Union. Greg taught for 11 years at 3 metropolitan Detroit police academies. Greg was an instructor in great demand for Officer Survival Tactics in Michigan, Ohio, and Canada.

Greg spent 4 ½ years in the US Army - specializing in 'small unit' operations, and training. During that time Greg received 3 Army Commendation Medals, 2 Army Achievement Medals, a Good Conduct Medal and much more.

Greg is a veteran police officer with 20 years of experience, more than 11 of those as a metropolitan Detroit area police officer. Greg has been a patrol officer, detective, sergeant, and Chief of Police.

Greg worked on a SWAT team, in undercover street crimes, and narcotics enforcement. Greg is also a DEA trained narcotics enforcement undercover officer, and supervisor. Greg also received undercover training from Joe Pistone, the true life Donny Brasco played by Johnny Depp in the hit Hollywood movie. Greg worked with the FBI, CIA, and DEA on numerous high level operations. Greg worked executive & dignitary protection for President's Ford, Reagan, Bush, and Clinton, and for many actors, musicians, professionals, and foreign dignitaries.

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He now is running his own business and still provides training to LEO's and does a couple of training seminars for "regular people every year. He's the first person to tell you to ALWAYS have a gun.


Oh and he carries a 1911

 

[El Tejon]

Sifu or shi-fu ("teacher-father", can also mean "master" or "one of high skill") depending on the translation system.

Karate? TKD? But you say sifu??? Does your son study Chinese boxing??? Or do they just use sifu?

Not common at all, PRC. I'm the only guy in my Wing Chun Kuen club that does not have a clippy knife on him during training (so far the mook jong has yet to make a move on me, but I stay alert).

The higher up the training ladder you go the more likely you are to encounter martial arts instructors that own firearms. This is because a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and as you learn more and more you learn how vulernable the human body can be.

For example, last night in Wing Chun we were practicing gun and knife disarms (our sifu is "inactive reserve" [not recently] SFer). At full speed with an uncooperative training partner things can go get really interesting. I want a "stand off" weapon--pistol, better yet a shotgun.

Remember the "secret" to all martial arts--[Sibo El Tejon lighting incense, sitting on office floor cross legged] "Don't miss practice!".

 

[PCRCCW]

Its Chinese Kung Fu and this was his first class. Forgive my lack of knowledge when it comes to the specific art forms from the various origins and backgrounds. The SiFu was a very good young lady, the other was a gentleman who was also a SiFu and the other "helper" was a "SiHing"?

All I can tell you is I loved it and so did my son. I remembered alot of what I was trained..but that was 1/4 century ago.....(man, has it been that long ? )

Next week Ill be there again..taking notes and Will Not Carry...just in case.
My legs really hurt for some reason today..........hmmmmmmmmm.

Shoot well.

 

[Tierhog]

Why wouldn't someone want as many options as possible. Does a carpenter only carry a hammer, or a golfer only a putter. No, because different situations call for different tools.

 

[Walosi]

"The Sifu was a very good young lady" Ah, yes - one of the side benefits of bonding, taking the boys on outings, etc. One of the advanced students helped out at the boys' Shorenji classes. She turned a Gi into a GEE WHIZ!!
And she was the only one in the dojo who smelled good

"How I learned to love head locks", or, "I'm smiling because there's something warm in my ear".

 

[El Tejon]

PCR, "sihing" means a male classmate who has joined before you, an older brother. "Kung fu" means "skill through effort" or "hard work" can be a lot of things, signing, cooking, dancing, computer skills, what have you.

When you say "kung fu" as martial arts people really mean "boxing" (chuan or kuen) or "wuyi" (stop weapons). Kung fu being a minor mistranslation, but people know what you mean. Sort of like saying "Class 3"--you'll send El Tejon around the bend but people know what you mean, Title II weaponry.

Does your son's kwoon (training hall or center) have a website? Maybe that defines your boy's area of study. Hope he enjoys it.

For more terminology from my sibo of my clan: www.authentickungfu.com/seven_star/explanations.html

 

[teppo-shu]

I have my permit, and I've been taking Pa Kua kung fu for over 4 years. I see no incongruity in carrying and martial arts at all. Like Tierhog said - different tools for different (or escalating) situations.

 

[Mastrogiacomo]

You've got to be confused. Sifu for teacher in Gung Fu is Chinese, Sensi, pronounced sen-say for Karate is Japanese. Both titles mean one born before you in knowledge. If this is Tae Kwon Do, both would be incorrect as the Korean have their own term for teacher that is different from these terms....

Si Hing -- meaning older brother in Chinese refers to your classmates that were there before you.

Wing Chun practitioner here....some of ladies like to do the Kung fu fighting too...

 

[Soap]

Hmm...I thought it was cool that I practice with the Wing Chun Kuen group with a knife on... Dang I hate being one-upped!

You can use this as a testimonial for your holsters!

 

[BevrFevr]

martial arts, CCW have one thing in common

They both inspire confidence that is hard to hide and that makes you less of a target to predators and trouble makers.

You may suck as a martial artist but as long as you believe you are good, it shows.

You may be a piss poor shooting barney fife type w/ a shootin iron but having that piece with you makes you feel more comfortable and it will show.

You will be less of a target because of it.

Personally, After being in violent confrontations that had permanent results I studied martial arts to have a less than lethal alternative to a gun or knife. Sometimes you may have to do things to get out of a situation that just don't call for pulling a gun or a knife.

Lots of you seem to be in stand up and duke em out or High kicking styles. DO NOT NEGLECT YOUR GROUND FIGHTING! In fact I would say focus on it. Very few Physical altercations I have ever taken part in or witnessed did not go to the ground pretty fast.

Even little girls take it to the dirt pretty fast.

 

[pax]

Lots of you seem to be in stand up and duke em out or High kicking styles. DO NOT NEGLECT YOUR GROUND FIGHTING! In fact I would say focus on it.

But not while packing.

pax

Been there, done that. Got the bruises.

 

[El Tejon]

Mas, you bet! Afterall Wing Chun was invented for women by a woman.

You can Siu Lim Tao with us anytime.

 

[Soap]

Dang I hate ground fighting. I ground fight dirty by doing things like pulling ears, gouging eyes, twisting pinkies, pulling knives... Not stuff you really see in a ground fighting course. Like pax, "Been there, done that. Got the bruises."

 

[El Tejon]

Dan, you do that in sticky hands too!

 

[PCRCCW]

Well...thanks for the lesson. I appreciate knowledge in things what are of interest to me and my kid (s)

Actually, I can use it as a testimant to my holsters..but I didnt want the thread to come across like that..you know? I take great satisfaction that I can carry heavy weapon, retain it and conceal it...doing what I did in a holster that I designed and made....pretty cool. There thats the end of my little gloat! Thanks for your patience.

Ill look into the terminology thanks for the link..and BTW, the hall is a city sponsored program..very reasonably priced. No website that I know of, but hell..its still fun and great for my son and I, both.

Thanks guys and gals


Shoot well