Just got a Mossberg Maverick 88....

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So I sold my Davis P-380 for $100 and paid $150 for a brand new in the box Mossberg Maverick 88. I am looking to get a Pistol Grip, Weapon Light, case, and a side mount shell holder. Does anyone know of a good place to get these accessories? Also, for HD, what ammunition should I use? Anything else you would recommend me adding to this? I am going to take it to the range on Sunday just to get a feel for the gun, but after that it will sit by my bed hoping it never has to be used.

Thanks in advance for the comments/advice, this is my first post here!
 
Welcome aboard!

Lay in plenty of ammo for training and practice too... and use it. Concentrate more on accumulating wear marks on the gun as it is than bolting on extra jimcracks and geegaws. Maybe look at some defensive shotgun training, if such is available in your area? Cultivating your ability to use the gun instinctively is a much better use of money than buying more stuff to put on the gun. In short, shotgunning is more about software (the shooter) than hardware.

I'd skip the pistol grip, and just make sure the factory stock fits properly. A good white light is IMHO a useful addition to a defensive shotgun- LED versions seem to work better on shotguns, as there is no bulb filament for recoil to break. I like extra ammo on a working gun, and prefer Sidesaddles as a way to get it. A sling can be useful too, though some dislike them for use inside. Mavericks seem to be good solid shotguns, your job now is to turn yourself into a good solid shotgun shooter.

lpl
 
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Thanks for the advice! It seems alot of people have told me to steer clear of the pistol grip but noone has really said why. I have seen some people with them and some without. What is your reasoning for staying with the stock stock.
 
First, do NOT get a pistol grip for the shotgun. Worse accessory choice EVER! Leave the shoulder stock like it is. Weapon light? I'd skip that too. Turn on the light switch. Don't know why anybody'd be walking around their own house with the lights out and a weapon light on their gun. Spend whatever money you would have spent on a sidesaddle, weapon light, and pistol grip on some ammo. Buy the WalMart birdshot and shoot it until you're tired. Then do the same thing the next day until you run out of money. You ain't gonna wear the Mossberg out.

Finally, buy quality buckshot loads. Slugs are for mall-Ninjas or operators with lots of experience. It'll go through the bad guy, through the wall, through your neighbors wall, and through a good guy in your neighbors house. I'd limit yourself to a magnmum load, but I prefer 2 3/4" magnums. They have 12-pellet 00 Buckshot loads. Get Winchester or Remington, don't buy cheap ammo that you're going to bet your life on. Many choose #4 buckshot and I'm okay with that choice as well. You don't need 3" magnums. They give you 3 more pellets, but they are travelling slower so penetrate less than the 12-pellet 2 3/4" magnum loads.

Every range session, I'd light off a box of the Buckshot (5 rounds) so you know your gun will cycle them and you're familiar with the recoil/blast impulse. I store my shotguns hammer down on an empty chamber, safety off, and magazine full. No sidesaddle, no pistol grip, no flashlight, and no sling. In a tense situation, turn on the lights and pump a round into the chamber... you're loaded and the bad guy know's you're there, knows you're armed, and will now either confront you and die, run, **** his pants, or do some combination (actually, most of the time they will do EXACTLY what you tell them to do).
 
Sonick said:
It seems alot of people have told me to steer clear of the pistol grip but noone has really said why. I have seen some people with them and some without. What is your reasoning for staying with the stock stock.

Since you're new here, a good read over this thread would be adviseable. If you'd like any clarification after that, we'd be glad to step up.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=355528
 
It seems alot of people have told me to steer clear of the pistol grip but noone has really said why.

Good idea. Let's drop it.

A stock is a stock is a stock. Whatever *YOU* choose to put on yours, just be sure to practice with it. Shoot as much as you can with whatever stock you choose and you'll hit your target, no matter the stock you choose.

Don't know why anybody'd be walking around their own house with the lights out and a weapon light on their gun.

A home defense gun isn't going to be used *just* indoors where the light switches are, Badge. They go with you to check the backyard, the barn, the out buildings etc....and a *LARGE* percentage of home defense situations happen when the power is out. Bad guys don't make their schedule to suit you, bud. They like dark, no power to set off alarms, no phones to call the police situations.

richard
 
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It seems alot of people have told me to steer clear of the pistol grip but noone has really said why. I have seen some people with them and some without. What is your reasoning for staying with the stock stock.

Why?

Simply because shotgun stocks have evolved into their present form over a period of several hundred years, the better to allow shooters to quickly hit fleeting targets. They still work very well for that, given reasonably good fit to the shooter.

lpl
 
I'm going to add some accessories to make this a nice looking / fun / B.A. HD gun. The following list is what I've comprised. Does anyone have any experience with any of these mods, have a better recommendation, or know of somewhere cheaper to get them? It's broken down into two orders because I won't be able to afford to order it all at once.

Mossberg Maverick 88 Accessories From http://www.combathunting.com

MOSSBERG SHOTGUN 500 TOP FOLDING STOCK ATI $49.50 TFS0600ATI
UNIVERSAL SHOTGUN 12 GAUGE SHOTSHELL HOLDER ATI $10.25 SHO0500
Deluxe Shotgun Heatshield With Ghost-Ring Sights $21.50 SBS4600ATI
Total $99.10 with Tax & Shipping

Black Tactical Flashlight Luxeon LED Super Bright $29.95 TTFLBNCS
Tactical Flashlight Wired Pressure Switch $12.95 AFWSNCS
ATI Shotgun Flashlight Laser Barrel Clamp & Stud $8.95 SMC1100ATI
Total $65.28 with Tax & Shipping



Mod Cost $164.38
Gun Cost $150.00 (Minus the $100 put towards it from the FREE Davis I sold)
Total Cost $314.38 (^^^^^ really makes it a $214.38 investment)
 
Pistol grips on a shotgun with no stock HURT! Only 1 round down range to convinve me.

Here is the downstairs HD Maverick 88.

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Light, side saddle, butt culf (optional, but in this case loaded with tactical slugs).
 
Which light and mount is that? I like that better than what I was looking at. I wonder if the pressure switch I looked at would work with that light. As far as hurting with pistol grip, I'm a pretty built guy. 5'10" 230, not calling you a wimp or anything but I really like the idea of making the gun as small as possible so an intruder would have a harder time getting it from me. With the top fold stock if I did infact not like the pistol grip I could always just keep it locked to full stock or put the original stock back on.
 
Accessories................

One place to try for accessories for your HD shotgun is:
http://www.CheaperThanDirt.com You can order online or request a catalog, which they will sent you periodically. I have a Mossberg 500 Persuader/Cruiser 8 shot with a 20" barrel. Will eventually add a sling, a butt cuff and if I can afford it a laser that replaces the end cap on mag tube without reducing capacity of magazine. Hope that helps.
 
Well, a pistol grip only might not let you use the sights. A stock with a pistol grip might not let you use the sights as fast, though I'm not sure. I don't have a light, though I think it's a good idea. It's not like you have to use it. I would use buckshot for defense, though keep in mind it will go through walls. Also, do you know the 4 rules of gun safety?

Also, recoil is bad for a few reasons. It will give you a flinch, which will reduce your accuracy a bit. It will also reduce the speed with which you can shoot a second time.
 
Am I the only one thats gonna say don't bother with the heat shield? It's not like your gonna be pumping hundreds of rounds thru it then grabbing it by the barrel. In fact if I run out of shells and the bad guy trys to take it from me I want him to grab the somewhat moderately warm barrel and hopefully that will burn him just enough I can smash his face with it.

Spend that money on more buckshot.
 
Jojo, I slice a lot of barrels down. I can take the fifteen mins to reinstall a bead front which isn't going to be used and add $50 ghost rings (I like ghost rings), or I can just add a heat shield with ghost rings. The heat shield is easier in this case.

Never heard that logic before, though. Remove all heat shields from all guns and use the hot barrel as a weapon. I'll have to ponder that one a bit. ;)

rich
 
Sonick, the mount is from Surefire (got it from MidwayUSA, and it clamps to the mag tube), a Scorpion light in a Command Arms 1" mount. The thumb switch works better than a Surefire G2 for me. A folding stock is a good option though. I prefer full stocks myself.

As far as a shorter weapon, I have a G17 w/ a Glock Light and 19 round mag or an M4'gery with a 500M Surefire tac forearm and 30 rounds of .223. I am also 6'3" and 235, but I don't really like getting the crap kicked out of my shoulder or hand. Just me though.
 
I have the Mossberg 500A, which is pritty much your gun just with a 7-round tube on it. I personally put an ATI 6-position M4-style stock on mine, because the LoP on a the OEM stock was a bit too far for me to be comfortable. The shotgun for the most part simply did not fit me. An other advantage that I find with the 6-position is more in-line recoil, giving me a much easier time firing follow-up shots as the gun simply moves back and has no flip of any kind.

But, as others have said, practice first, practice more, and when you thought you practiced enough, practice some more. You can buy crap later. Practice will make you a good shot and let you survive any defensive shooting, bolting crap to your gun won't. Also get some training if you can, and do be thinking and practicing your tactics for HD as well. In a stressful situation, very few people stand up to the challenge, nearly everyone falls back on training.
 
Here's my logic for not using a pistol grip, other than the uncomfortable recoil: it's slower than a full stock.

With a full stock, I'm faster and more accurate. I can also recover from the recoil of the gun and be back on target faster with a full stock. If length is a problem, you can cut a wood stock a bit shorter, or purchase a youth buttstock.

Congrats on a good purchase. The 88 is inexpensive, but a good value.

All my best,
Dirty Bob
 
It would be wise to get some shooting time with the Maverick.:)

As stated by those before this post, don't mess with a pistol grip.

You made the statement that you've seen folks that have pistol gripped shotguns and wonder what is the fuss?

Recoil. Recoil. Recoil.

A shotgun full buttstock simply distributes recoil over a broader area and reduces felt PAIN.

A pistol grip delivers the recoil into your wrist and you are using your hand to absorb recoil and your finger to do the fine motor of pulling the trigger.

If you are battering your hand/wrist area with heavy recoil,you loose fine motor function.

Pistol grips are,IMHO best suited for an old parts drawer.

That seems to be where they wind up after shooting a few rounds downrange.

There might be some vids on youtube of folks shooting pistol grip shotguns
and that could give you a good indication of what to expect.:)
 
Recoil. Recoil. Recoil.

A shotgun full buttstock simply distributes recoil over a broader area and reduces felt PAIN.

A pistol grip delivers the recoil into your wrist and you are using your hand to absorb recoil and your finger to do the fine motor of pulling the trigger.

Jlv,

the proper way to use a conventional pistol grip on a shotgun is to park the pistol grip hand tight against your chest right under your right pec muscle and to lock your wrist. Your wrist always remains straight with no bend. The recoil is distributed across your chest. Instead of kicking straight back, you allow your upper body to be slightly rotated by the force of the recoil. A Speedfeed birdshead grip is used slightly differently....your hand is still locked tight to your side, but your right elbow is cocked up behind you exactly as it would be if you were drawing a pistol from a holster. You keep your wrist locked straight.

Used properly, a shotgun pistol grip hurts your wrist far less than a large caliber handgun. I've gone home some days and had my right wrist swollen to 50% bigger than normal from handgun shooting. Never happened with a shotgun.

richard
 
Am I the only one who has had problems with Maverick 88s?

Within the past 9 months, I have purchased two of them brand new from Wal Mart, and they both broke in the exact same way after less than 200 rounds. The pins that connect the forearm to the action come loose and fall out, and once they fall out, they will never stay in again. This also caused the one action bar to bend in the one gun, and on the other, it caused the forearm to crack. I ghetto rigged a fix out of a roofing nail and some epoxy, but it didn't hold up on either.

The one ended up getting stolen in december, I sold the other one a few weeks ago, and I just picked up a new Mossberg 590 on wednesday.

I would have just brushed it off, but the same problem occurred to two of the same guns, both within a very short period of time. I'd suggest you keep it in mind.
 
Within the past 9 months, I have purchased two of them brand new from Wal Mart, and they both broke in the exact same way after less than 200 rounds. The pins that connect the forearm to the action come loose and fall out, and once they fall out, they will never stay in again. This also caused the one action bar to bend in the one gun, and on the other, it caused the forearm to crack. I ghetto rigged a fix out of a roofing nail and some epoxy, but it didn't hold up on either.

You mean the rivets on the one piece forearm fell out? They aren't pins. Rivets don't get loose and fall out. The Mav forearm *does* get a bit loose, however. It has no spring holding the bars in place like the Mossy 500 does. If it bothers you, which it shouldn't, the bars can be shimmed on the top and the outsides with aluminum strip which makes them as tight as you want them to be. also, there has never been *any* Mav 88 manufactured that had the one bar forearm. That hasn't been used in almost twenty years. ALL Mav's have the dual bar forearm.

In under 200 rounds, your gun was still under warrantee. Did you return them for fixing?

The Mav 88 one piece forearm can be replaced by the same exact one you have on your 590....and it's a three minute fix. That part goes for approx $30 total.

I've worked on a *lot* of guns in my life. Repaired a few Mossy's and Mav's, too. The ONLY times I have ever seen a Mav 88 forearm fail, exactly as you described, the wannabe gunsmith owners had tried to remove the one piece Mav forearm's rivets to replace the forearm with an aftermarket one. Three so far. You can always tell those by the fact the synthetic at the rivets is forced outward, usually by a flat screwdriver, in a way the gun can't possibly manage in normal functioning. It simply isn't possible to force the plastic outward to the breaking point in normal use.

richard
 
Simply isn't possible? It happened. Twice. I would go as far as to say that I babied both of them. The only modification I ever made, was to install a pistol grip on one of them. The first time it happened, they were there, and then on the next shot, they werent. The second gun, on the other hand, I could feel them working themselves out, and I would have to push them back in after every 2-3 shots.

It has nothing to do with the forearm being loose. The forearm fit just fine. But these rivets came loose, and fell out by themselves. Whether it is a major issue, or a strange coincidence, I can not say. I am just making the issues I had with the gun known to someone who just bought one.
 
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