Just heard this on CNN, imported assault weapons

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They just had an update on the proposed gun legislation on CNN almost 2:45 Monday, the Congresswoman happened to have been shot 5 times, in Guiana, like a decade or two ago, "what this has to do with American guns is beyond me", but she said the paprework is now on Obamas desk, and she also said it referred to "foreign made assault weapons". Is it possible that US manufacturers are going to be exempted from these laws.
That would be a twist, and a way to get around whatever laws they do come up with. It would show that they did something, but not affect most AR's, don't get me worng , "it still stinks, and should be overturned". But it may at least allow us our AR's with some kind of magazine plug, that could be ruled down by individual states.
We have Gun Appreciation day this weekend, don't forget to find out where events in your local are being held, as many can't get to their state capitol, maybe city hall or the local range has something planned, "call around" and check, we want to get some "air time on this" issue.
 
Executive orders can affect importation of weapons/ammo. Bush did this with Chinese weapons and ammo.

If this happens I suspect importers will move production stateside. That's good. The bad iz that Romanian Aks and the like will definitely skyrocket in price. My SCAR 17will in FDE value will definitely increase to 5kplus.
 
gym said:
Is it possible that US manufacturers are going to be exempted from these laws.
That would be a twist, and a way to get around whatever laws they do come up with. It would show that they did something, but not affect most AR's, don't get me worng , "it still stinks, and should be overturned". But it may at least allow us our AR's with some kind of magazine plug, that could be ruled down by individual states.
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EO's are not "Laws". Nor can individual states "rule down" either EO's or "Laws". Please learn how your government works.
We have Gun Appreciation day this weekend, don't forget to find out where events in your local are being held, as many can't get to their state capitol, maybe city hall or the local range has something planned, "call around" and check, we want to get some "air time on this" issue.
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State capitols and city hall have nothing to do with federal laws. Visit your Congressmen or write to the President, they are the only ones involved in this issue.
 
That would probably kill one of my favorite importers, CzechpointUSA, and my fantastic SA vz-58 rifles. I wonder how many of the bigger importers are trying to bring manufacturing equipment into the states.
 
EO's are not "Laws". Nor can individual states "rule down" either EO's or "Laws". Please learn how your government works.
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The president can issue an E.O. relative to enforcing the 1968 GCA that requires imported guns and ammunition meet a Sporting Use test. Last year he issued such an order to prevent M1 rifles and carbines from being re-imported from South Korea.

If he should do so he can't be touched, but it may add to the probable hit his party will likely take in the 2014 election.
 
The president can issue an E.O. relative to enforcing the 1968 GCA that requires imported guns and ammunition meet a Sporting Use test. Last year he issued such an order to prevent M1 rifles and carbines from being re-imported from South Korea.
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yep he can, and this is what I expect the EO to be. non-sporting guns and ammunition, read that as anything semi-auto and all FMJ ammo, are on the block. your saiga will go up in value. a 12g saiga may well lose it's sporting exemption too (hello NFA).

That sporting use clause if the only real place he can hurt us. (that I know of at least, haven't perused the laws in detail)
 
Executive orders can affect importation of weapons/ammo. Bush did this with Chinese weapons and ammo.
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There was no executive order. The Bush administration banned those guns from import under the "sporting purposes" clause of the GCA 1968: No executive order was required. Ther precedent for banning long guns under the "sporting purposes" clause of the GCA 1968 was set in 1984 when a semi-auto shotgun was banned from import. Three presidents in a row banned guns from import under this provision of the GCA 1968.
 
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The president can issue an E.O. relative to enforcing the 1968 GCA that requires imported guns and ammunition meet a Sporting Use test. Last year he issued such an order to prevent M1 rifles and carbines from being re-imported from South Korea.

If he should do so he can't be touched, but it may add to the probable hit his party will likely take in the 2014 election.
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Then he's not making new law is he? EO's cannot make new law. '68 GCA is existing law, and presidents have some leeway on how to implement them, but he can't just make new law as the OP claims. Nor can individual states "rule down" federal laws.
 
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Ther precedent for banning long guns under the "sporting purposes" clause of the GCA 1968 was set in 1984 when a semi-auto shotgun was banned from import. Three presidents in a row banned guns from import under this provision of the GCA 1968.
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I think if they squeeze that sporting purposes clause much more it will fold under court review. Heller made it clear that the 2nd is not restricted to sporting purpose.
 
So only American companies will be able to market "assault rifles" in the U.S.? Meaning those companies which may legally contribute to Presidential and Congressional election campaigns, and have reason to distrust and fear the left wing, will have legal monopoly over this booming sector of the firearms market? We should PRAY Obama is this foolish. 2016 could make the beatdown they have coming in 2014 look TAME. Maybe they really don't remember what happened last time.....
 
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They just had an update on the proposed gun legislation on CNN almost 2:45 Monday, the Congresswoman happened to have been shot 5 times, in Guiana, like a decade or two ago, "what this has to do with American guns is beyond me", but she said the paprework is now on Obamas desk, and she also said it referred to "foreign made assault weapons". Is it possible that US manufacturers are going to be exempted from these laws.
That would be a twist, and a way to get around whatever laws they do come up with. It would show that they did something, but not affect most AR's, don't get me worng , "it still stinks, and should be overturned". But it may at least allow us our AR's with some kind of magazine plug, that could be ruled down by individual states.
We have Gun Appreciation day this weekend, don't forget to find out where events in your local are being held, as many can't get to their state capitol, maybe city hall or the local range has something planned, "call around" and check, we want to get some "air time on this" issue.
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Must be the aide to Congressman Leo Ryan who was killed down in Guyana by the Jim Jones nutjobs from Jonestown.

She was shot at the airport too but survived.
 
If the Supreme court chooses to hear it, they should be able to rule on it's legality. As far a FL goes, we have been urged to go to our local ranges and LGS on Gun appreciation day, if we can't make it to the state capitol. So kindlly remember that things don't work the same way everyware, several news stations have announced different gatherings this week.IE:

The groups are asking people around the country, and right here in the Tampa Bay area, to “go to your local gun store, gun range or gun show with your Constitution, American flags and your ‘Hands off my Guns’ sign to send a loud and clear message to Congress and President Obama.
We’ve declared January 19th – two days before Obama’s Inauguration – to be Gun Appreciation Day. And we’re urging Americans nationwide to show their support for gun ownership.

We need every patriotic American to turn out en masse at gun stores, gun ranges, and gun shows from coast to coast
http://www.conservativeactionalerts...-coming-five-easy-steps-to-defend-gun-rights/

It's always better to know what is going on rather than make a statment that's incorrect.
http://clearwater.patch.com/article...the chances are it gets tossed out on appeal.
 
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I think that Gun appreciation day is a very important day. Perhaps some of us can't do much more than write letters and send the NRA a few dollars, but showing up in numbers, wherever guns are involved, like shows and ranges, will create hundreds of local news stories, even if they are fillers.
It doesn't cost much and it definatelly shows the bean counters in Washington, that maybe more folks than they figured were not thrilled with this new agenda.
If you were planning on going shooting in the near future, then the 19th is a good day to go and maybe grab a pen or crayon and make a sign or wear a Molon Labe tee shirt, to show support.
We can use all the help we can get, being silent doesn't work, so perhaps a trip to the show or range isn't the worse way to say , hey we are still here we aren't going anyware, and perhaps get a few people on the air to show that we are your neighboors, not the enemy. Again it can't hurt.
 
I say we all pitch in and build Siaga a factory in a state that wants them. Montana, Idaho, Texas, etc.
 
joeschmoe said:
EO's are not "Laws". Nor can individual states "rule down" either EO's or "Laws". Please learn how your government works.

State capitols and city hall have nothing to do with federal laws. Visit your Congressmen or write to the President, they are the only ones involved in this issue.
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Dear Joe, who needs a lesson in our government. You state that EO's are now Law. The courts regard them in the following manner:

Most executive orders are issued under specific statutory authority from Congress and have the force and effect of law. Such executive orders usually impose sanctions, determine legal rights, limit agency discretion, and require immediate compliance. Federal courts consider such orders to be the equivalent of federal statutes.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Executive+Order

What pray tell is the difference between a federal statute and a "law?"
 
What would be great is if Politico actually listed the 19 actions...
 
Old Fuff: Yes, they need the mid-terms to go their way.

And as our esteemed President is well aware of needing a strong D. majority in the Senate, he will keep an eye on what can affect the majority.

If he decides that he does not care about that, then he already realizes that it would be harder to pass his pet bills.
 
Definition of Tyrant:

1. a sovereign or other ruler who uses power oppressively or unjustly.
 
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