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Just How many Gun Owners ARE There in the United States of America?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Blain, Dec 7, 2003.

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  1. Blain

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    Anyone hazard a guess? Well, with a total human population of 281,422,000, I would estimate around 150 million of those own a firearm of some type.
     
  2. TarpleyG

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    I always hear 80 million thrown around. Sounds low but come to think of it, I really don't know THAT many people that own guns but the ones that do own at least 1/2 a dozen or more so who knows.

    GT
     
  3. Matthew Courtney

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    The census reports only about 203 million people in the US over the age of 18. Given 4-6 percent are illegal aliens, many more are legal aliens prohibited by state laws from firearms ownership, about 1 % is currently in jail and 3-5% are convicted felons, I doubt 74% of adults own weapons. I haven't even examined those confined to mental institutions or adjudicated as insane.

    I am not arguing that prohibited persons do not own guns; I am asserting that gun ownership rates among prohibited classes are probably significantly lower. NY, Chicago, and D.C. likely have a regrettably low ownership rate.

    I'd guess 90-115 million gun owners, with 80-107 million being lawful.
     
  4. Remington Employee

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    Do you mean people that happen to own a firearm...or GUNOWNERS?
    If you own a firearm and are not activley helping promote the shooting sports, teaching hunter's ED or politically active you fall into the first rather than the later.
     
  5. Blain

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    :uhoh: Uhhhhhh......sure........sure........ :rolleyes:
     
  6. Mad Man

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    source: "Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms" U.S. Department of Justice. May 1997.

    Text version of the brief is at http://www.ncjrs.org/txtfiles/165476.txt

    PDF version of the brief is at http://www.ncjrs.org/pdffiles/165476.pdf


    source: "Gun Ownership: The Numbers" Reason. May 2001.


    source: "2001 National Gun Policy Survey of the National Opinion Research Center" Universtiy of Chicago. December, 2001.


    FYI: "The population of the U.S. on April 1, 2000 was 281,421,906."

    44 million = 16% of the population
    77 million = 27% of the population
    90 million = 32% of the population
     
  7. Standing Wolf

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    That settles it. I'm going to start looking for a new gun tomorrow to make up for a household of slackers.
     
  8. geekWithA.45

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    I'm not real sure about the decline numbers....to tell you the truth.

    :scrutiny:

    I remember looking into this, and informally graphed them out, cross referenced against a graph of the noise level indicative of the public acceptibility of infringement.

    My take on it is that the more publicly unnacceptable it is, or when yet another ban looms, people clam up.

    I wonder how this all correllates with sales data, and NICS aggregates. The trend I've seen from other sources is that when danger threatens, either in the form of more legislation, crime sprees, or terrorist attacks, people vote with their wallets and buy guns. Lots of guns.

    Soooo many interesting numbers to cruch, so little time to crunch them.
     
  9. 7.62FullMetalJacket

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    Yeah, like everybody tells the truth on the census survey.

    My take is that in the Red states, gun ownership is stable or growing. Blue states shrinking due to stigma/inconvenience.

    I would not truct the census for reliable data, though. More governmentspeak.

    I have been acquiring at a brisk pace, with Christmas just around the corner.:D

    Gotta make up for the slackers.:evil:
     
  10. slh02

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    According to the research I gathered for one of my term papers, there is a conservative estimate of a little more than 200 million guns in the hands of citizens of the United States. I dont believe this estimate took into consideration illegal firarms possession, hence the conservative nature. If the estimates of an average of 4 guns to a gun owner is correct, than that would put it at what, 50-60 million conservatively?
     
  11. Blain

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    No, there has got to be a HECK of a lot more than 200 million guns in citizen hands, a heck of a lot!
     
  12. Bill Hook

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    To echo Remington Employee, who cares?

    What matters is how many are registered voters and voting the 2nd amendment.
     
  13. abdrdude

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    Not nearly enough gun owners in this country. Not nearly enough.
     
  14. Sam Adams

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    I don't believe anything that people tell the census takers or other gov't officials, esp. on sensitive subjects. I've done extensive research on my family history, and I promise you that people lie - a lot. When it comes to freedom or survival, people will change their name, their age, marital status, whatever, just to be left alone.

    As to the number of gun owners, I estimate that we've got at least 80 million gun owners, possibly as many as 90 million. The recent increase in CCW laws across the country has led to a large number of new gun owners, and certainly to a lot of new guns for existing owners. If each one owns an average of 3, then there are 240 million guns. However, I think that we probably have more. Based on what I've observed, gun owners tend to be collectors - they can't have just one. I know someone with more than 50 guns, mostly unregistered since they are antiques or were "found" in the "discard bin" by some non-com and given to him while he was in the service. Many others that I know own at least 10-15. Additionally, there were lots of war trophies brought home by troops in the 2 world wars, and probably a bunch of those were full autos - none of these appear in the govt's statistics. How many guns were brought in to the country "illegally?" (note that I don't recognize that concept - if you purchase an item from someone who is willing to sell it at the agreed price, that can't be illegal - but that's a whole other debate).

    I'm going with 85 million gun owners and 3.5 guns per, so that works out to 297.5 million. The DiFi's of the world should be very afraid - it isn't going to be so easy for her and her fellow travelers to enforce the "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in" wet dream that they have.
     
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    Evan Marshal, who does statistics on guns such as best one stop shot handgun rounds, estimates there are 300,000,000 guns in the USA.
     
  16. Nathanael_Greene

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    I agree with those who say the polls undercount the percentage of gun owners.

    If someone called my house and asked me, I'd say "No," only because there's no other way to say "None of your business, pal."
     
  17. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Mad Man has some useful and informative links; but it is worth noting that the two researchers who conducted the NSPOF link (44 million estimate) support gun control and are usually funded by anti-gun foundations. 44 million is the lowest estimate I've seen.

    Here is another number: 111 million

    That is the number of people who voted in the 2000 elections. Looking at that number and the lowest estimates of gun owners, it is pretty clear that most gun owners don't vote their guns. If even half of them did, there wouldn't be a party in the United States that would dare propose gun control.

    I know my personal goal for 2004 is going to be to find 5 inactive gun owners and get them registered and voting their guns in the 2004 elections.
     
  18. WilderBill

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    I expect there are a lot more than are reported.
    It is logical to rule out convicted felons etc., however those are the very people who will not be likely to tell a poll taker they own any firearms.
    They are also the least likely to be concerned about the legallity of owning firearms.
    Also, if you are asked how many you own, do you answer with the truth or how many you filled out paperwork on?
    It would be interesting to know just how many firearms a inherited each year. Many of them could be older than any records of them.
    I'd bet there are a number of folks that don't consider themselves to be firearms owners that have forgotten "great uncle John's" old shotgun in the attic.
     
  19. WhoKnowsWho

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    Even my wife is above average in that regard! :D
     
  20. Frohickey

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    Wouldn't a rough guesstimate would be the number of Form 4473s?
     
  21. gunsmith

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    if one percent refuses to give up

    without a fight,lookout!
     
  22. Bill Hook

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    I know more than a few yellowdogs who'd give up their guns "for the children" and vote a straight socialist ticket each election.

    What matters is those gun owners who are committed to RKBA, not going through the motions of shooting when it strikes their fancy or believing they're "okay" while the next guy or his guns are "bad." Sen. Feinswine is a gun owner, in case anyone forgot.
     
  23. Billmanweh

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    I know a few people who just happen to have a gun of some kind in the house, but wouldn't streniously oppose registration and don't see any problem with an assault weapon ban, etc.

    I'd be curious to hear how many people are dues paying NRA members, versus say AARP membership.
     
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    The bulk of these 'polls' and 'census' were taken during the Clinton regime. Enough said.
     
  25. Frohickey

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    Remember Don "I need a gun/CCW permit to protect myself because I propose a lot of gun control laws' Perata? :cuss: :fire: :barf:
     
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