Kahr PM9 - accuracy sucks?

[coorsleftfield]

It could be me thats "sucking" but I can tack drive my Kimber 1911 with 5 shots all into the same hole at say, 10 yards. With the pm9, I'm shooting big groups, 4" maybe..

I've been using proload 124gr +p, maybe it's the ammo? Tried some winchester white box 115gr target ammo, same results.

Guess the question is, have others found the PM9 to be ammo picky when it comes to accuracy?

 

[stretcharmstrong]

If this is the 1st micro sized gun you have fired I would say it is in fact you the shooter. It took me a good 250 rnds before I got used to the DA pull and the short site radius on my MK9. Now approaching 1000 rnds, I really find I am much more accurate with it and feel like I have full control of the trigger and sight picture. Spend some time with it. Make sure you have a smooth even pull on the trigger. The slightest jerk with a 3" barrel'd gun will be much more negatively noticable than with a full sized 1911.

 

[WonderNine]

What distance are you shooting at?

 

[Bren]

Well, it's a pocket gun and you may be a bad shot with a DAO trigger. Try resting it at 7 yards with different ammo before judging it.

Also 124gr +P is going to wear that puppy out quick, practice with slow ball until you have the trigger down and don't use it as a range gun!

 

[coorsleftfield]

I shoot a DA revolver in competition all the time and I can tack drive with it, so I'm used to shooing DA triggers, also my glock was no problem either and it had a similar trigger. I'm shooting about 1000 rounds a month these days, so I'm doubting the accuracy problem is me, but I'm going to shoot it from a rest just to make sure.

I'm shooting from a distance of about 7-10 yards, and getting a 4" group, totally blows.

 

[mini14jac]

Are you shooting off-hand, or Weaver stance from 10 yards?
If so, in my opinion, a 4" is not bad for self defense.

Though you shoot a lot, and shoot other guns better, I'm sure you know that each gun is different.
Put another 500 rounds down range and see what happens.
In my experience, small guns are much more difficult to learn to shoot accurately.

I've just passed 600 rounds in my PM9, and my accuracy seems to get better each time I go to the range.
My daughter hasn't shot it much, but from 6 yards, she easily got a rapid fire group of 4-6". She can do that with her snub nose Taurus also. I was very happy with that. I have no doubt that she can defend herself with a handgun, if the need arises.

If you are getting 4" from a bench, that is not so hot.
I have heard of bench rest groups fo 2-3" with the PM9, but I'm not that good of a shot myself.

I didn't get the PM9 for a target gun, or a tack driver.
I do want a concealable self defense gun that I can get accurate hits with, at reasonable self defense distances.
Currently, if I work at it, I can get get all 7 shots to touch from 6 yards, using cheap Winchester 115gr. ammo, if I'm having a good day.

Just for kicks, I tried some Speer +P 124gr. Gold Dots from 25 yards, Weaver stance, slow fire, at a B27r silhouette.
My gun seems to love that bullet.
I had a 6" group in the middle of the target!

If I fire rapidly from 6 yards, and get a 4 MOG, (minute of badguy), I'm happy with that.

My PM9 is the most accurate tiny gun that I have owned or fired.
(Compared to a NAA Guardian, NAA .22 revolver, KelTec P32, S&W9-something, S&W Centennial, and Taurus 94 Ultralite.)
My Glock 26 may have been more accurate, but it was a much larger gun.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a world class shooter.
If I was, I suspect my PM9 would turn in even better numbers.

 

[22luvr]

4" groups at 10 yards ???

What's wrong with that? That's puttin'em into a human head-sized target at 30 feet! I'd be thoroughly satisfied with those results, considering the PM9 is not a target pistol but a close-quarter defense piece. Pat yourself on the back; that's good shooting to me considering the long DA pull and barrel shortness.

 

[PCRCCW]

Its very very common for even "tack drivin shooters" to FUBAR their accuracy with a Kahr...even the Elite trigger, until they get used to the gun. I owned one for over 2 years and it took about 6 months before I could shoot my other guns at the range and then shoot the Kahr as well....but once you get it down....it too will be a tack driver. Just shoot it and get used to it......
shoot well

 

[Watch-Six]

Mine will shoot better than that, but I really don't care much about mediocre groups from a pocket pistol. The PM9 is certainly easier to shoot well than a light weight DAO S&W J frame. Watch-Six