Kahr PM9 range report, not good
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I don't mean to insult you Kahr true believers. Friends, I don't doubt you one bit when you post how nice your MK's or the other Kahrs are. However, to my way of thinking~This is an expensive pistol. It should be finished better and Kahr should communicate with their customers better. There was an M.D. here. I think his name was Robert Miska. (I believe I'm pretty close on the name.) I can't remember the Kahr model, but he was posting that he was having one heck of a time with Kahr. Nobody would communicate with him and nobody would *permanently repair his pistol. Kahrs are just too expensive for that kind of "Sierra" to be going on.
Are you "out there" doc? What finally happened?
*By the way, I too would never place a defective firearm on "consignment". A few people tried to get me to do that with my bum Autauga. I wouldn't do it. I have enough trouble sleeping without worrying that a defective pistol which I sold didn't operate correctly. I gave the "Sierra Oscar Bravo" to a close friend (who's a member here, by the way) after making it crystal clear that the beautiful little Autauga had a problem.
He STILL wanted it (said he liked to rescue pistols), so I gave it to him.
He's a holster maker who's been great to me, knows a lot about guns, wanted the Autauga...so I sent it to him.
KR
Are you "out there" doc? What finally happened?
*By the way, I too would never place a defective firearm on "consignment". A few people tried to get me to do that with my bum Autauga. I wouldn't do it. I have enough trouble sleeping without worrying that a defective pistol which I sold didn't operate correctly. I gave the "Sierra Oscar Bravo" to a close friend (who's a member here, by the way) after making it crystal clear that the beautiful little Autauga had a problem.
He STILL wanted it (said he liked to rescue pistols), so I gave it to him.
He's a holster maker who's been great to me, knows a lot about guns, wanted the Autauga...so I sent it to him.
KR
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I hear you Kentucky and could not agree more. It seems as though alot of folks from here and the old firingline have had a lot of problems with the p- series. Seems alot more so than other forums i.e glocktalk and 1911.
I've seen all the pic's and read all the stories, and I have to believe there are a small number of bad ones out there, as with any manufacture nothing is alway's perfect, outherwise there is no way kahr would have grown to be the company it is in such a relitivly short period.
All I can say is my experiences with the steel and polimer kahrs have been the same, very,very favorable.
I guess I've been lucky, although I can't really said I've ever had a real stinker in any of the 100's of firearms I've had over the years.
I had one of the first mk's a few years back and the factory was very helpful, I don't rely on e-mail for corispondence If I have a serious issue, I will talk to a armorer or in kahr's case I talked directly to frank james.
Since the dealer is getting a new PM9 from Kahr, I am getting full credit. I fully informed the dealer of the problems, and frankly, the groups may be acceptable to other buyers. Kahr is the one who made the gun, not me. "Dealing" with Kahr is not what I spent the high $$$ for.
billcameron
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I hope the glock 26 you now have is not one of the E series under recall/upgrade for bad slide rails.
Since I spoke up the first time... I feel like I owe this one to you.
What you've done here is EXACTLY what I meant. Send it back, get it replaced, and THEN wash your hands of the entire product. Now if it malfunctions, you can honestly say with good conscience that you were not aware of any problems with that particular pistol.
You did good.
I'm glad that 26 is working out so well for you.
Mike Irwin
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My K9 is one of the most accurate firearms I own. I've shot IDPA matched with it a number of times, and done very well.
I've also been able to repeatedly ring a 10" gong at 50 meters with it offhand.
I can't even imagine why your P9 would be to inaccurate. The ones I've seen have been fairly accurate.
Call Kahr, and ask to speak with the service manager, and tell him about your problems.
The general manager of the company, Frank something, was at one time also very accessible and very very helpful.
The reported issues of people not being able to get in touch with Kahr is VERY disturbing, and not the company that I deal with several years ago.
I've also been able to repeatedly ring a 10" gong at 50 meters with it offhand.
I can't even imagine why your P9 would be to inaccurate. The ones I've seen have been fairly accurate.
Call Kahr, and ask to speak with the service manager, and tell him about your problems.
The general manager of the company, Frank something, was at one time also very accessible and very very helpful.
The reported issues of people not being able to get in touch with Kahr is VERY disturbing, and not the company that I deal with several years ago.
Mike,
I had the problems with the PM9. Called Kahr twice.
My P9 is a tackdriver. Absolutely top quality, accuracy and reliability.
Very dissappointed in the PM9.I was surprised when Kahr offered to replace it. I really want one and may revisit again later on.
I had the problems with the PM9. Called Kahr twice.
My P9 is a tackdriver. Absolutely top quality, accuracy and reliability.
Very dissappointed in the PM9.I was surprised when Kahr offered to replace it. I really want one and may revisit again later on.
Mike Irwin
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Gau,
Yeah, my typo, my bad.
Yeah, my typo, my bad.
Greybeard
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This news on PM9 is skightly disturbing as I've had no concern with one I got just over a month ago, altho it is just a little over the 200-round break-in recommended.
I've put just over 100 ronds thru it and loaned it to a couple of other shooters who did a box each. One of 'em, who owns at least 2 dozen handguns, was promptly after me to sell it to him after being impressed with size/weight and his groupings at 7 yards.
I must admit that I've not benched my PM9 for accuarcy at 25 yards. But, IIRC, I did run a couple of magazines thru it (standing) with 8" to 9" picnic plates at 50' and considered it at least equal to my typical ability with DAO snub always gun.
Come to think of it, I've not benched my 6-year old K-9 at 25 yards either, but have considered it to have excellent reliability and accuracy at typical defensive distances ...
I've put just over 100 ronds thru it and loaned it to a couple of other shooters who did a box each. One of 'em, who owns at least 2 dozen handguns, was promptly after me to sell it to him after being impressed with size/weight and his groupings at 7 yards.
I must admit that I've not benched my PM9 for accuarcy at 25 yards. But, IIRC, I did run a couple of magazines thru it (standing) with 8" to 9" picnic plates at 50' and considered it at least equal to my typical ability with DAO snub always gun.
Come to think of it, I've not benched my 6-year old K-9 at 25 yards either, but have considered it to have excellent reliability and accuracy at typical defensive distances ...
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