Kalinka!

[F1ST0]

http://kalinkaoptics.com/

I can't believe the prices on these optics! I'm sure they're all rugged and quality and all that stuff, but man! Probably because since rubles converted to USDs is like... nothing.

Just thought I'd share.
*EDIT* calm down guys, I'm not bashing Leupold by any means, Leupold rocks. Just throwing out some options for price conscious shooters.

 

[allaroundhunter]

Go ahead and enjoy those..... I'll stick with Leupold, thank you.


And 1 Ruble is equal to $0.03... But that doesn't mean that Russia can make things of better quality for less than the US can. Good quality still comes at a price, even when monetary units are converted.

 

[jakk280rem]

All scopes are glorified aluminum(and a few steel) tubes. It's how deserving of that glory they are that dictates the quality of the scope. Leupold deserves its glory. And Leupold charges accordingly.

 

[ObsceneJesster]

So let me get this straight. You're just assuming these scopes are of good quality but you haven't used one yet? Way to go throw a reputable company under the bus.

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[F1ST0]

I still love leupold: US made, used by the military. I intended the title to be tongue in cheek; a hyperbole.

 

[Ar180shooter]

http://kalinkaoptics.com/

I can't believe the prices on these optics! I'm sure they're all rugged and quality and all that stuff, but man! Probably because since rubles converted to USDs is like... nothing.

Just thought I'd share.

They'll likely be robust, but will be heavier than a Leupold, have poorer glass than a Leupold and will be impossible to have repaired should something go wrong. Something like a Leupold Mark 4 will beat them hands down.

 

[Fishbed77]

The various Russian optics (PSO, POSP, etc.) are certainly well-made and dang-near bomb-proof (and heavy as a result), but don't expect the optical clarity, precision, features, or light-gathering capability of a Leupold.

Also, don't expect any real customer support should something fail (not that likely, though).

 

[JustinJ]

The various Russian optics (PSO, POSP, etc.) are certainly well-made and dang-near bomb-proof (and heavy as a result), but don't expect the optical clarity, precision, features, or light-gathering capability of a Leupold.

Which Leupold? I would put the glass of my POSP, made in Belarus, on par with any of the lower end Leupold optics.

 

[jmr40]

And they are not much cheaper than a comparable Leupold VX-2. I'd not take the chance for such a small price difference.

 

[allaroundhunter]

Which Leupold? I would put the glass of my POSP, made in Belarus, on par with any of the lower end Leupold optics.

Well, in another thread the OP compared them to a Leupold scope which costs several hundred dollars more... Not Leupold's more "budget friendly" scopes.

 

[F1ST0]

Which Leupold? I would put the glass of my POSP, made in Belarus, on par with any of the lower end Leupold optics.

None, this post wasn't meant to be taken seriously, I wish I could change the name of the thread

 

[JustinJ]

Well, in another thread the OP compared them to a Leupold scope which costs several hundred dollars more... Not Leupold's more "budget friendly" scopes

I've got a VX-R Patrol at home which I supposed would be a Leupold mid range. I'll have to do a little side by side with the POSP.

 

[F1ST0]

I've got a VX-R Patrol at home which I supposed would be a Leupold mid range. I'll have to do a little side by side with the POSP.

does the 1 moa click adjustment value affect the overall accuracy/precision of the scope?

 

[taliv]

I wish I could change the name of the thread

done.

it's not clear why you are assuming russian scopes would be well made. i have a couple that didn't last long at all.

 

[F1ST0]

Thanks.

what was wrong with them? Kalinka's website has dozens upon dozens of parts for their scopes.

And I assumed they would be well made because those Russians have a tendency to make stuff... work.

 

[BobTheTomato]

I bought a POSP from there for my AK. It has held up well and keeps it's zero when taking it on and off the rail.

Seemed to be good quality for Russian weapons.

Buy and try before you knock it.

 

[Dr.Rob]

I have had some good quality Russian consumer grade stuff, and some passed off as "warsaw pact" junk come my way. I wouldn't be adverse to trying one of their optics if I found one to my liking.

 

[WardenWolf]

Russian optics are generally very good quality. The glass is clear and the scopes are durable. And they have some things, such as the PK-A red dot, for which there is no Western equivalent for hundreds of dollars more. A 1 MOA PK-A for half the price of a 2 MOA Aimpoint? Yes, please.

 

[YZ]

The Japanese yen is cheaper than the ruble. Currency exchange rates are irrelevant to the manufacturing excellence.

The vendor seems to be an outlet for a Russian based import-export business. I know little about the red dot optics coming from there, but wouldn't mind trying. The recently privatized Soviet manufacturers strive to be competitive and profitable, and are extremely unlikely to crapify their reputations from the get go. Unlike the Chinese who are behind many Western brands, the Russians try to brand themselves openly. I wouldn't spend my last savings on the unknown optics, but with some discretionary funds, why not. Especially to match an eastern bloc rifle or shotgun.

Russian optics in general have a good track record. Until recently, all glass no plastic, and a lot fitted by hand. The cameras have been excellent since WW2, after the original Zeiss facilities and technology were appropriated wholesale.

 

[Fishbed77]

And I assumed they would be well made because those Russians have a tendency to make stuff... work.

Well, except for their cars and airliners, and most everything else that isn't a gun. Their space capsules are pretty decent, I guess.

 

[WardenWolf]

Well, except for their cars and airliners, and most everything else that isn't a gun. Their space capsules are pretty decent, I guess.

Actually their cars are reliable, just unimpressive by our standards. And their airliners are just OLD. They've been in service far longer than most of our stuff and have proven just as reliable if not more so overall. Age and poor maintenance is what causes problems, though. Russian stuff works. It just tends to be rather Spartan compared to our stuff.

Kalinka's scopes are actually new-production, aside from their WW2-surplus Mosin and SVT-40 scopes. They're made in modern military factories. Some of their products feature factory modifications that Kalinka specifically requested, though.

 

[kwguy]

None, this post wasn't meant to be taken seriously, I wish I could change the name of the thread

LOL see what you started!

The POSP and PKAS red dot are both pretty good. They have a different design philosophy and methodology for sure. Those two optics are durable, with decent glass, just a little heavier, and probaby not as 'sexy' as their American made counterparts.

 

[TexasPatriot.308]

Kalinka ......probably the sound they make when they fall apart and hit the floor. you get what you pay for, although there is a lot of overpriced stuff out there.

 

[WardenWolf]

Kalinka ......probably the sound they make when they fall apart and hit the floor. you get what you pay for, although there is a lot of overpriced stuff out there.

Hardly. They're actual military optics, just sold on the civilian market.

 

[YZ]

Just read Fish and Warden. It is really a mistake to equate the shabby quality of Russian consumer goods (in the past anyway) with "anything guns". The military industry used to be a separate world. That's where the best and the brightest on the biggest payrolls ended up. Mechanical engineering in particular was second to none. Until computer electronics opened up a huge gap, the Soviets managed to keep up and sometimes get ahead in creating weapons. At the same time they seemed unable to build decent cars or fill the grocery stores, because their real priorities left everything else bare.