Keeping with the same gun type for CCW and HD

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I am looking to get into concealed carry. I currently have a Beretta M9, which I love, for HD. I am searching for a ccw gun and my current top choice is a Beretta PX4 Storm Compact in 9mm.

Yet I am strangely drawn to the idea of a Glock 19...

With all that said I like the idea of my HD and CCW guns to have the same controls and I like the fact that I can carry the Berettas decocked and with a trigger safety.

I have heard a lot of great things about the PX4 and the Glock has a well documented reputation for excellence, with the whole external safety thing being a slight concern.

I will do most of my carrying on road trips.

How big of an issue is it switching back and forth between types, and what is you opinion about choosing one of the two guns?

Thanks in advance.
 
My guess is you wouldn't have much trouble switching between the two.

I suspect you use the safety/decocker on the Beretta as a decocker only, as do most people with this type of firearm, so when you grab the Beretta all you do is pull the trigger, just like you would do with the Glock.

If you prefer to see a hammer on your gun, I'm sure the Beretta PX4 would work just fine and have similar controls and feel similar to your M9.
 
First off welcome to THR.
It should not be to hard to go from the DA/SA of the m9 to the trigger of the 19, it probably will be closer if you take advantage of the short reset (it's pretty much like SA). That being said the PX4 is a nice pistol and is closer to your m9.
Don't know if you have, but you should shoot both and see what shoots best for you.
 
I actually do keep the safety on. I like that the trigger is disconnected so that if I am grabbing for it in a panic in the dark nothing that I don't want to happen will. That is my hesitation with going with the Glock. I would feel comfortable with not carting with one in the chamber and racking the slide since there is no other manual safety to deal with.
 
As long as you regularly practice with both you should be ok to have different trigger types between your carry gun and your HD gun. Good trigger control will work whether you are shooting your first round DA with the Beretta or pseudo-SA with a Glock.

One thing I would worry a little about is how you choose to use the safeties if the gun is equipped with one. I usually avoid pistols with active safeties because I don't really like them, but of the pistols that I DO have with manual safeties, not one of them operates in the same way. Some are slide mounted, some frame mounted; some are up to fire, some are down to fire; some decock while others are just "safe". When I use these (admittedly very rarely) for defense, I leave the safety off, that way I don't have to worry about "ok, which gun is this and how does the safety work again...?" I'm always just a DA trigger pull away from a working gun.

I actually do keep the safety on. I like that the trigger is disconnected so that if I am grabbing for it in a panic in the dark nothing that I don't want to happen will. That is my hesitation with going with the Glock. I would feel comfortable with not carting with one in the chamber and racking the slide since there is no other manual safety to deal with.
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If you're worried about fumbling with the gun, get a good holster for your gun that covers the trigger guard and store the gun in the holster. That way you can grab the gun and the trigger is protected until you make the conscious decision to draw. Carrying a gun without a round in the chamber is not generally recommended.
 
Solution. With the caveat that they have not been imported since mid 90's. They pop up on gunbroker or the beretta forum routinely thou...

G4-19 on Left, 92c Type M on Right. It's everything the 92fs is, minus the size as its single stack.

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I don't see it as a huge issue using 2 different styles just as long as you are proficient enough with both. It is simpler, however, to have the same style. For me, I'm a revolver guy with the only "safety" being the DA pull. Along with my revolvers I have a Sig P250 which is DAO so its almost identical trigger pull (actually nicer) but lends me twice the rounds. I know no matter which gun I grab I'll have the same DA pull. I like having that congruity but its not necessary.
 
I can say I agree with the sentiment of only having one set of controls to learn. All my pistols are DAO or striker fired with no manual safety. Both of these features are because I follow the KISS principle (which means only a DA/SA pistol would be a paradox).

However, there is also something to be said to be practiced on both systems.
 
As long as you practice with both and stay proficient, it shouldn't be a big deal.

That said I have an M&P9 for HD and the 9c for CCW if that helps.
 
m9meatball wrote,
That is my hesitation with going with the Glock. I would feel comfortable with not carting with one in the chamber and racking the slide since there is no other manual safety to deal with.
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Certainly, with your own gun, you can carry it anyway you want. However, your suggestion of carrying a gun without a round chambered is often discussed here on THR and is almost always recommended against, especially by the knowledgeable.
 
I use the PX4 Compact for both EDC & nightstand duty. It's big enough for a full grip & 15rds yet small/light enough for carry. It has less muzzle rise than any other handgun I've fired and that makes for faster followup shots.
I don't care for slide-mounted safety/decockers so had both of mine easily converted to G-style decocker-only.
The PX4's grip is a bit slick for my taste but Talon Grips is a great inexpensive solution.
My biggest complaint w/the Compact is that the proprietary front sight width doesn't allow the use of std aftermarket night sights. I had Tool Tech do custom installs on both of mine (they drill the factory sights then install Trijicon tritium vials), pricey but worth it, IMHO.
I normally carry AIWB and w/the muzzle pointing at my femoral artery I prefer a DA/SA design and won't trust a Glock-like trigger in that location (there's a reason the term "Glock Leg" is in the shooting lexicon).
Tomac
 
Thanks guys. I have been thinking about this for a while and it's a tough choice. I wish I could find one of those 92 compacts...
 
IMHO I feel that in a self defense situation while conceal carrying if you draw your weapon the less you have to do to get a shot off the better. Reaction time is key even more in this scenario because the threat is imminent. In a home defense situation you will probably have more reaction time as the threat is probably not right on top of you. I understand being half awoke fumbling around in the dark reaching for a handgun making some worry about maybe an AD but while carrying you are fully awoke and aware. Plus your holster should cover the trigger anyways. This is what led me to make a homemade bed holster from a old cheap holster I no longer wear. I will always believe the only handgun that needs a safety is a true single action, like a 1911. But this is my opinion and don't try and force it down someone else's throat. At the end of the day you have to be comfortable with whatever you choose. I know guys who have ten pound triggers that carry with the safety on
 
m9meatball said:
Of those of you who have Glocks do you like them?
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Yes, but none of mine are stock. While not radically modded either, I have night sights, Ny1 trigger spring (makes the trigger smoother and more like the trigger on the j frame that I carry as a BUG) and Talon "rubber" grip tape. I've also shot a PX4 in.45 it's a nice pistol, just don't like the safety levers much, the ones on the 92fs are much better IMO.

Also carry all my pistols with a round in the pipe and don't have Glock leg yet, but I also don't just mess with them and I'm very careful when I do holster them.
 
The Beretta Type M is one of my holy grail guns and has been for many years. The M9 I carried in the Marine Corps was so smooth, accurate, and reliable. Something just feels right about the Berettas.
 
If you spend time with two pistols, you'll be fine. A lot of people do just what you speak of in your O.P. The downside is if you spend a lot of time shooting one, but leave the other to languish in a dresser drawer. Know both intimately.

Personally, and this is just personal preference, is to keep the same pistol, or an identical one, for CCW and HD.
 
If you're worried about grabbing your gun in the dark, as you put it, just keep it in a holster so you have to take that extra step to wake up.
 
I use a common platform for HD and CCW. My HD gun is a G17 w/night sights and my CCW is a G26 w/night sights. Both chambered. Both triggers are covered, so grabbing one by the trigger is not an issue for me on either.

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I made the decision to have standard/common control types/locations on all my handguns that would be used under stress (all of mine have frame mounted, down-to-fire safeties and American-style button mag releases). All the arguments for an against have already been made, so I'm only relating the conclusion that I reached.
 
I'm starting to think that having the same procedure to us a weapon in any defensive situation is a good thing.
 
My two carry pistols will be A Beretta Px4 subcompact and Glock 26...both do double duty as HD guns. I have trained extensively with both guns and have no problem making the transition. I did reconsider carrying my G26 because of the lack of external safety.

I have been very concerned about an ND with the Glock due to the lack of external safety and no way to disconnect the trigger like the Px4 but a search for another SA/DA decocker style gun to replace the Glock failed to produce any "goosebump" guns. So, I have doubled my training with the Glock and adjusted my mindset.

I personally don't think you can go wrong with either gun or platform. Both are great performers for me. I can't have just one or the other, I need both. Be careful the same does not happen to you...;) :)

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