Kel-Tec .380 as a primary CCW ?

[Fred Find]

To Carry in Comfort

This is not for everyone, but I have been using the Kangaroo Carry for a couple of years now and it is the Most comfortable and concealable method on the market today. If you have not looked at it, you may want to.

The company will get back with you when you call or E-mail and will work with you if you have a problem. This kind of service is rare today. When I malied them I got a reply from one of the VP's. [email protected]


www.kangarooind.com

 

[JShirley]

Welcome to THR!

John

 

[DDGator]

I gotta say the picture on that Kangaroo site is not flattering...

It looks like Kramer's "Manzier" or "Bro"...

 

[Drjones]

I dunno how comfortable it could possibly be to have what is essentially a belly-band strapped around your chest all day.

I don't think I could stand it.

Thanks for the link, though, and WELCOME!

 

[azrael]

hmm not a bad holster just not for me...i will stick to pocket and belt carry

 

[kokapelli]

Doesn't look very practicle to me.
Wearing a pistol in that fashion here in Arizona in the summer time or most of the year for that matter would turn the pistol into a chunk of rust in no time. I wonder how long it would take to draw from that rigg too? I wear "T" shirts most of the time and would have to pull my shirt up to my chin to draw! I'll stick with pocket carry where I can have the pistol out of the holster and in my hand, but still concealed in my pocket when things look suspicious.

 

[Flipper]

PX15:
You are as eloquent on this forum as you are elsewhere.
I've been carryin' my P-11 a couple of weeks now in an Uncle Mike's Sidekick holster, which resides in my front pocket. I haven't really shot it enough to have an opinion yet, but so far everytime I pull the trigger a bullet comes out. I say "resides" because I am never without it, just the thing one wants the most in a ccw. I have to admit though "you know it" when you pull that trigger.
Mighty Comfortable to carry!

 

[P95Carry]

Rather tyhan start a new thread .. I'll just add a bit here.

Well - snow has cleared here quite a bit and this afternoon made #2 visit to range this week .. wicked!

This was first chance to really check out P3AT .. to which I must confess, I have yet to apply a ''fluff'n'buff'' ..... thought I'd just try an outa the box first shoot.

Well ... all I had with me was some Brown Bear JMJ ... which the Thunder likes. This was OK except for two FTE's. Not really sure why ... that tho was only out of four mag's full. Still concerns me.

Shot at 10 yards ... and all on a sheet of paper very easily ... tho gotta say, large hands and wee lil grips ... it ain't that easy to hold!!

Thing that most got to me tho was the small trigger and guard ... had to make sure I was ''finger tipping'' ... otherwise finger was feeling very restricted with that long pull.

I think way more practice is needed .... plus maybe some other ammo ... then if time allows a fluff'n'buff.

 

[rbernie]

Add the Bersa Thunder fingergrips ($3 ea) to the mag bottom - it makes the pistol MUCH more controllable for those of us with largish hands.

 

[P95Carry]

Add the Bersa Thunder fingergrips

Yeah .. I remember reading someone mentioning those .. but sourcing?? Where might be best to go find them ... and I still have to get a spare mag too ... guess that'll have to be top Dollar thru Kel-Tec yeah?

 

[Flipper]

P95Carry
The trigger area on the P-11 is the same. You put too much finger in there and it will "bite" you on the way back. The bright side is that it will sure school you right quick on developing the proper grip. I have rather large hands (Size 15 foot might give you some idea) and the trigger pinched me twice during the first couple of mags. It just takes a little practice then grippin' it will come naturally.I'm developin' a real likin' for it and haven't had the urge to bite it back in at least a week.

 

[rbernie]

I bought the grip extension directly from Bersa. It's part #48, @ $3 each.

http://www.bersa-llama.com/380liteSpts.html

 

[P95Carry]

Hey, thx guys. I'll check out that link soon

Flipper .... SIZE 15 FEET!!!!! .... sheesh . I can only imagine the hand size. Heck - if you can cope then I can .... I know I need more practice for sure.

I am foot size 11 .. so must be a midget by comparison!

Shoot safe and straight.

 

[alamo]

I recommend the Bersa extension too. I also put on the Houge Handall, Jr.
Both help you get a better grip on it. For me, they improved the comfort factor in shooting it and accuracy.

http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/p3at-fingerrest.htm

http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/handalljr.htm

 

[goalie]

I just got one for my birthday. It is light, accurate and reliable. It sent 200 rounds downrange without a glitch now in two seperate range sessions. It may not be pretty or have the best finish of any firearms I own, but I will trust my life to it when I am not carrying my Glock 26 or my 3" SP101 in .357 magnum. It beats my .22 NAA mini revolver by a long shot.

 

[flatrock]

Kel-Tecs don't seem to be as polished as some other more expensive guns. They perform better when new if you spend a few minutes doing a quick fluff and buff to smooth out some rough edges. You can also just break it in by shooting a few hundred rounds through it.

The P3AT is an extremely small and lightweight gun. Because of that it's particularly susceptable to limp wristing. If you keep you're wrist locked and let your elbow flex instead with the recoil, the FTEs disappear.

I can get FTEs with my S&W or my fife's Beretta by limp wristing as well. It's the small size and light weight of the P3AT that makes it more of a problem with that gun.

If you can carry a larger and heavier gun like the Glock 27, then that's probably a better choice. The heavier weight will give you less barrel flip, which makes limp wristing less of a problem. It also lets you get back on target for a second shot faster.

However, if you just can't conceal a gun larger than the P3AT, then learn what it takes to shoot it well and reliably.

Learn to lock your wrist when you shoot, and practice with it. If you're having problems with the gun after breaking it in some, send it back to Kel-Tec. They have a lifetime warranty, and stick by their products.

After shooting thousands of rounds through it you may start seeing wear, and the recoil springs may start getting weak. Send it back to Kel-Tec and they'll repair it, and update it with any changes they've made for free.

Someone said they shoot a thousand rounds a week. If you're buyinga gun to take to the range and shoot a thousand rounds a week, then a pocket carry gun isn't the right gun for you. The P3AT isn't a target gun. It has a specific purpose for which it's very well designed.

I have a P3AT. When the Ohio CCW goes into effect I will be carrying it as my primary carry gun when I can't carry a larger gun. When I can reasonably conceal a larger gun I will. However, my gun does me no good in my car or in my house. Therefore I'm taking the time to learn what my P3AT can and cannot do, and using it accordingly.

My wife on the other hand doesn't like the barrel flip, so she bought a S&W 642. It's a little harder to conceal, but it suits her needs better.