Keltec Sub-2000

[Hugger-4641]

Just picked up mine this afternoon. I have the threaded G19 version. The bolt does not lock open on last round. I don't expect it to last the same rd ct as my Ruger PCC, but the first 30rd mag was flawless. The dings you hear occasionally in the video is a steel target at 100yds. Using factory federal 124fmj target rds.
It has Mcarbo trigger + covers, Midwest swivel mount and Primary arms red dot.

 

[Elkins45]

I have the 40 caliber version. I’m a lefty so I mounted a red dot at a 45° angle so I could tilt the ejection port down instead of horizontal. Even with glasses it was miserable to my eyes with blowback and powder residue. I don’t recall mine ever jamming in hundreds of rounds.

 

[ECVMatt]

View attachment 1134674 Just picked up mine this afternoon. I have the threaded G19 version. The bolt does not lock open on last round. I don't expect it to last the same rd ct as my Ruger PCC, but the first 30rd mag was flawless. The dings you hear occasionally in the video is a steel target at 100yds. Using factory federal 124fmj target rds.
It has Mcarbo trigger + covers, Midwest swivel mount and Primary arms red dot.





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It looks like you are off to a good start! I really enjoy mine and ended up being surprised by how well it works.

 

[Bazoo]

I had one in 40 using glock 22 mags. It consistently stovepipe on the last round with several different mags. I looked up on the ktog and at the time, 10 years ago, it was a common issue. I’d love one in 9mm using Glock 17 mags though.

 

[Professor Gascan]

I had a second gen G17 model that functioned fine for the 500 rounds or so i put through it, and from what I've read on the internet very few reports of function issues.


My biggest gripe with it was the ergonomics... I really had to press my cheek down hard on the buffer tube to get a good sight picture and every time I pulled the trigger it felt like I was getting punched in the face. I second the notion of trying before you buy one if you can.

 

[TTv2]

The ergos on the Sub 2000 aren't good, but a pleasant shooting experience was never the intended goal of the Sub 2000, it was meant to be a cheap, light, compact PCC that could easily and discreetly be brought places. While I still like mine, I barely shoot it and my interest in it is nowhere near as high as when I got it, but I consider all the other options for a PCC and there are reasons I'm not sold on them.

The Hi Points are lower in price, but high in clunkiness factor to the point the last I handled one I can't understand why people speak so highly of them, yet dump on the pistols. The Ruger more refined, but a heavy piece (typical Ruger) and at $600 a bit of a hard pill to swallow given Ruger's current QC issues. Beretta Cx4 I would consider if they ever made one compatible with Taurus 92 mags, and then there's the AR PCC builds.

All this leads me to believe that there is no one perfect PCC. The Kel Tec, while I don't question its longevity or reliability (some early issues, but those went away after breaking it in) the Sub 2000 was built for working, not for plinking.

That said, the discussions about the SU16 in another topic have me rethinking what the Sub 2000 is compared to that. When I bought mine it was purely for civil unrest situations where if I didn't have access to or ran out of rifle ammo and only had handgun ammo, would I rather have a handgun or a carbine? I decided a light carbine had some potential use and figured you can't beat a Glock mag compatible PCC that weighed a few lbs and folded in half. That philosophy still holds true today.