Kids have to remove "firearms" from toy soldiers in school!

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I think we are on a crash course (the old-fashoined freedom loving patriots, and the new age liberal nanny state movement) and things could get ugly. Voting for the lesser of two evils only goes so far. Eventually people will get tired of being told to be passive drugged-up weaklings and the silent majority will stand up and say "That's enough. Get off the podium or I'll throw you off, all of you".
Too many people worked, bled, and died to build this country into the greatest nation in the world to let it be usurped by a vocal but spineless group of socialists. We can't afford a watered-down indecisive crybaby country full of people who faint at the sight of a water pistol. Enough's enough. :rant mode disengage:
 
being the son of a cop and soldier I want to be the most patriotic SOB on the planet. my respect for ALL our reps in congress has stooped to a lifetime low(52)
 
In enforcing the decision, the district cited its Safe Schools policy and the federal Gun Free Schools Act of 1994, a federal law designed to remove firearms from schools.
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I just googled "Gun Free Schools Act of 1994", limited it to English and only from .gov sites.

The act prohibits students from having guns at school. Not commenting on that. But a gun is a gun. A toy soldier two inches tall, even if carrying a toy gun, is not a gun.

Teachers, administrators. Get a clue. LEARN the meaning of words, for crying out loud! You are in education.

A gun is a gun. A 2" toy is a 2" toy. A 2" toy IS NOT A GUN! And therefore, does not come under the application of the federal Gun Free Schools Act of 1994.
 
What about a Zero Tolerance for irrational educators?- Perhaps the Feds should start a program called No Teacher or School Administrator Left Behind- No wonder this nation is going to the dogs- What ever happened to common sense?- Apparently is is just easier to turn the mind off and blindly follow!- Gentlemen, we are in deep doodoo :banghead:
 
Send your kids to Catholic (or private schools). Those schools tend to be more beholden to traditional values and if you create a legitimate stink, they'll listen to you, since they tend to be beholden to your tuition dollars as their income.
 
Well, cpaspr beat me to it, but I'd like to reiterate the most salient point of this affair: a toy is neither a "firearm" nor a "weapon."

Case closed.

Zero tolerance is just a way of saying: we need not take the responsibility of discretion upon ourselves. My job could be filled by a monkey...

And who the flying #!@$ suspends a KINDERGARTENER???!! AGHGHT!!
 
Been off THR for a week, first post read, already ill. Helpless said it right even if it happens in a thousand other ways. Our young men are being eaten alive by the dark forces destroying what good there is in this world from within. Our boys, girls too, are being disempowered and weakened, brainwashed, and blinded from all sides, from all religions it seems, from all governments, from all companies, where in the world are they going to learn that all that is seen is not gold, and that not all authorities are telling the truth or are smarter than they are. . .

this is grounds for serious rage, to think I teach....no, this is WHY I teach. Fortunately OUR superintendent is a Marine Recon vet bad to the bone dude with freakin grenades on his DESK. Inert of course. . .

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My friend's grandparents live in Ranchos Palos Verdes. I've been to their house. It's no wonder they don't have a problem losing their 2nd amendment rights. They live in a huge house behind a huge gate and have 24 hour security patrolling constantly. It's easy to give up your own protection when you can pay for a private police force to protect you. One more example of the liberal "elite" telling the rest of us how to live.
 
It's a darn shame they don't have a "zero tolerance" for Guiness Book of Records type of STUPIDITY!
 
If it's a gun, it has to have a serial lnumber.+

If it don't got no serial number, how could it be called a gun?

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(Makes me wonder if some sharp defense attorney could use this theory to defend against shoelaces being machine guns.)
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+ Excepting only a few pre-GCA 68 guns.
 
They got away with it because it occured in an elementary school, and little kids will not object to an authority figure who refuses to give them any choice, and what can the parents do after the fact?...If this were to occur in a high-school graduation, I think they might have been told to take a flying leap. Now, it's been a long time since I went to H.S., but they would have had to arrest me. At least then I could sue.
 
They got away with it because it occured in an elementary school, and little kids will not object to an authority figure who refuses to give them any choice, and what can the parents do after the fact?...If this were to occur in a high-school graduation, I think they might have been told to take a flying leap. Now, it's been a long time since I went to H.S., but they would have had to arrest me. At least then I could sue.
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I don't know about that. More and more they are refusing to acknowledge the kids that are going into the military and to the military academies during HS graduations. Well, not the actual graduations, but the ceremonies where they announce scholarships and awards.
 
I had a girlfriend whose sister wouldn't allow her son to have any toy guns. He used to nibble play guns out of saltine crackers.:)
 
Now I have it on good authority by a teacher on this forum that this is just an isolated incedent and not a problem with all schools. All you have to do to change things is go to the school board meetings and vote out the ones you don't like...:rolleyes:



Nothing to see here folks, move along....
 
"magical thinking" at work

Someone posted a few months back (was it even that long?) about the "magical thinking" of anti-gun witchhunts. I was actually laughing today as I passed a local Mexican restaurant whose sign features a big rifle next to the name of the restaurant, thinking of this sort of nonsense.

Some people are just too thickheaded to bother explaining (to them) how thickheaded they are. All of the petty tyrants quoted in that story I think fall squarely into that category.

timothy
 
Prince Yamato: Send your kids to Catholic (or private schools). Those schools tend to be more beholden to traditional values and if you create a legitimate stink, they'll listen to you, since they tend to be beholden to your tuition dollars as their income.
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You got that right, Prince. Our son went to private schools through the 9th grade. Then (God save us) public high school. The difference was unbelievable. When he was in the third grade he did a report on his GGGF during the Civil war. We have the musket and powder horn he carried. I took them to school and everyone was thrilled. I wouldn’t consider trying this in a public school even here in Texas. Hell, I’d probably still be in prison!
 
They want to create "gun free" zones? Well, just wait until the muslims wanting their seventy-two virgins show up like they did at Beslan. These fools are woried about all of the wrong stuff. They need to be securing their schools and preparing to protect their students. The shouldn't be worrying about two inch army men. Dumb. Very dumb.
Mauserguy
 
But its such a wonderful pleasant distraction. Thier going to single handedly ruin and entire generation of Americans. I suppose we can call this era "The Pink Scare"
 
Zero Tolerance

I find my tolerance for this sort of idiocy rapidly approaching zero.

Morons.

Anybody know a well-funded dude (or dudette) who would like to poke a sharp stick in the eye of state-run education?

I would be thrilled to have the chance to set up a school, staff it, and run rings around the socialist indoctrination centers. I actually have the first eight staff picked out.

And I'll have a rifle team.

Heck, if I can snooker him into it, I'll bet I can even engage a shotgun instructor. Nothing too heavy, though. These are kids. Start 'em on something lighter. Say, 28 gauge.

We'll have a rifle and a skeet/trap team.

With zero tolerance for socialism.
 
Sadly, some of this insanity isn't new. There were teachers and admins at the schools I went to back in the 60's and early 70's that were nearly as bad as the kooks doing the "zero-intelligence" stuff today. My mother was called at home for such earth shattering events as when ai tossed my lunch in the trash and went to a restaurant almost right next door to the school, when my friends and I "edited' Weekly Reader articles using "dirty" words, and the best one, when I started a lawn mower in the lunch room (I had bet and lost, that it wouldn't start after sitting all winter) for maybe 4 seconds. My mother's reaction? "Don't you have something better to do than worry about this nonsense all the time?" Her hostility shut them down real quick. The most stupid thing said was by the principal who told us that a "Lawn mower is very dangerous!". We were 12 year olds, and all of us had used them before. We looked at him like he was totally insane, and I kind of think he was. When he was "grilling" us about the Weekly Reader nonsense, he asked us if our parents took us to bars! What 12 year old doesn't know those words?

My friend's kid was been "busted" for "fighting" with his best friend, when they were just fooling around. They walked in together, pushed each other around, laughing all the time. The one kid gets a nosebleed if he gets looked at the wrong way, and on the security tape, he's plainly seen laughing as the blood starts dripping. The principal calls the cops, who arrest them for violating "The safe schools act", cuff them up and take the two desperados to Juvy Hall, where they totally fall apart. The parents show up and finally get them home. The school wants to suspend them for either 14 or 30 days, I can't remember which, and wanted to make them go to a special school on the other side of town. To keep this from being really long, it took the threat of showing the entire incident on TV to get the school board to back down and drop the whole matter, after giving them a "One day in school suspension". They moved to another school district, where a relative is on the board, because the kid was "marked" as a troublemaker by the school admins.

Another friend's insanely well behaved daughter was grilled relentlessly when she was "busted" for taking a little tiny set of screwdrivers out of her purse to tighten the bow screws on her glasses. The screws kept loosening up, even after loctite was used on them (I have the same problem), so her dad told her to take them with her, not expecting the teacher to freak out, and call the principal down who called the police. While waiting for the cops to come, the principal and guidance counselor said all kinds of crazy stuff to her, about "weapons", etc. When the police came (another friend of mine), he looked at the screwdriver (about 2" long) and said "So where is the weapon?, all I see is a tiny screwdriver!" He had to explain that they had no cause to do any of the stuff they did, and that they need to get "control of themselves". About then, her dad shows up, and gets into it with the principal, who's trying to tap dance her way out of everything. He ends up asking to borrow her pen, and he took it and stabbed it into her desk blotter and said, "That's a weapon!", and walked out. The principal wanted him to get arrested. My policeman friend just looked at her, and said, "You need a new career, you've lost your mind!!", and walked out. The principal got so much heat over that and a couple of other incidents, she was transferred to another school, and made vice principal there, a defacto demotion. She retired a few days ago.

Speaking of weapons, we ALL had pocket knives back then! From the age of 10 or so, I had at least one, usually two with me at all times. I can't think of any boy that didn't have one. Somehow, we all survived and nobody was ever stabbed with a knife, pen, OR screwdriver!

I would hate to be in school now, I feel sorry for all the kids who have to put up with the nonsensical stuff they do now.
 
Now I have it on good authority by a teacher on this forum that this is just an isolated incedent and not a problem with all schools.
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None of the schools I have worked with have a no weapons policy that extends to toy guns on plastic soldiers.
 
Man this country is going to H**L.

I have three boys and the school system totally revolves around the girls.

My first grader has a weekend project where they bring a "Ziggy" doll around and you write about what it did that weekend and take some pictures of it, each class member takes a turn doing this and they put it in a big book..

My son wanted pictures of the doll shooting the air rifle....I should have said sure lets do it...but I wimped out and worried about it and didn't do it. I am so mad at myself right now.

I wonder what they would have done.......AHHHH A PICTURE OF AN EVIL PELLET GUN!!!! RUN AWAY!!!!
 
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