Kind of new to this. Bear with me.

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There are many out there and the prices are all over the place. I can recommend the HiPoint. A lot of people hate them because they are cheap. They are ugly and kind of heavy. They are also very reliable with factory mags, quite accurate within the limits of the 9mm cartridge, made in USA, and have the best warranty in the business. I love mine.
 
Low budget, works, but ugly as homemade sin: Hi-Point.
Very nice if you can find them, out of production: Marlin Camp Carbine
Some people love, others hate: Ruger CX4 carbine.
Can be a regular pain to get set up initially: AR15 in 9mm
The original "it factor" UZI with wire stock.
The OG of 9mm carbines: MP40 reproduction
 
I really don't want you to bare with anyone... May need an eye bleaching. Bare =/= bear!

On topic, you need to give us a whole lot more info such as budget, planned use, your preferences of gun, etc.
 
Low budget, works, but ugly as homemade sin: Hi-Point.
Very nice if you can find them, out of production: Marlin Camp Carbine
Some people love, others hate: Ruger CX4 carbine.
Can be a regular pain to get set up initially: AR15 in 9mm
The original "it factor" UZI with wire stock.
The OG of 9mm carbines: MP40 reproduction

Don't forget the Kel-Tec SUB-2000. " Ruger CX4 carbine." Or the Beretta PC9 Carbine. ;)
 
Mech tech pistol upper carbine, ar9 from a miriad of manufacturers, ruger pistol caliber carbine, keltec sub2000, cz skorpion, and the lowly but unstoppable hipoint, etc, etc.
What price range are you looking at?
 
If you go to the rifle forum, there was a long running thread started by Chicharrones on 9MM carbines. A lot of options were discussed, thrown around and some cool pics came out as well.
As mentioned above
Low budget, works, but ugly as homemade sin: Hi-Point.
Very nice if you can find them, out of production: Marlin Camp Carbine
Some people love, others hate: Ruger CX4 carbine.
Can be a regular pain to get set up initially: AR15 in 9mm
The original "it factor" UZI with wire stock.
The OG of 9mm carbines: MP40 reproduction
There are some others of course, MP5 and clones. The KelTecs, and as mentioned:
" Ruger CX4 carbine." Or the Beretta PC9 Carbine. ;)
Yeah, those, the Beretta CX4, and the Ruger PC9.
Of course, now you also have the CZ Scorpion to stir things up.
The new version of the Ruger Carbines are also very nice.
 
I had a hipoint 9mm carbine for about 6 months. I put it in an ATI stock which I liked a lot better. It was accurate and reliable and I would not have a problem recommending them but with the caveat than it has all the quality of a squirt gun,

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I sold that and used the money to build this 9mm pistol length AR15. Its awesome in every respect but it did cost about $600 to build the way I wanted it, and it took a bit of work to get the magazines to work right. I would not recommend someone new to firearms trying to build one from scratch like this but I absolutely love mine. There are a few companies selling complete AR based 9mm's.

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Just Right Carbines make a very nice rifle

https://www.justrightcarbines.com/

The new Ruger PCC looks like a nicely built rifle as well. I was just handling one tonight.

https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/models.html
 
I’ve had 4:

Marlin Camp 9 - some parts seem cheaply made. Shoots fine.

Beretta CX4 - indestructible but ugly. Exceptionally accurate and reliable.

Keltec Sub 2000: Shoots okay but feels like it’s made from spare garage parts. However, parts are solid and it is reliable.

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 carbine: Shoots very well, best looking of the bunch. It is a must to replace one side of the ambidextrous safety with a delete.

All of the above have proven to be accurate and reliable. The Beretta and CZ seem to be overall best quality. My guess is the Beretta is the best quality, but the CZ looks much, much better. Beretta could have owned this market several years ago if they could have upgraded their platform and responded to customers’ desires - but they didn’t. I’ve never fired the new Ruger and I’m not a fan of ARs in 9mm. However, I do like that they build lowers that use Glock magazines. PSA has good deals on the AR platform.

These are just my experiences. Sig is interesting, but not at that price. You can get the CZ and Beretta for the cost of the Sig. I’ve also always wanted one of the H&K clones that Atlantic Firearms sell, but they are pricey as well. My friend has an old UZI with a stock and it is also very fun to shoot. Most all of the 9mm carbines function very well. It’s basically what you like and are comfortable paying for.
 
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I have to wonder if you are from of have been to the Audie Murphy museum in Greenville TX?

Welcome none the less.

There are a number you can pick from. A friend of mine has liked my camp 9 since I bought it in 1986, it has been a good rifle, not so much for cast bullets or aluminum cased ammunition.

My go to is a suppressed 9mm AR though.
 
If you have a 9mm pistol, esp one of the more popular ones like Glock or Beretta, you might consider magazine comparability as it could be convenient to use the same mags in each. Also, there are carbine conversions for some of these pistols, like the Glock. Are you opposed to this route?

What is your budget and what is this going to be used for? Is it a range toy or is someone's life going to depend on it?

The 9mm is popular enough for you to have options. You have the pistol conversions like the MechTech, the AR builds, and the dedicated PCCs ranging from the HiPoint to the Beretta and the Ruger, depending on budget and how much you want it to look something Boba Fett would use.
 
Nobody throwing the Kriss Vector into the thread? Looks stinkin cool, futuristic, and just awesome (plus it comes in 10mm too). I haven’t looked at the price tag, but it does say Kriss on the side so I really don’t have to look up the price to know I’m not buying one.
 
One thing I will add on AR9 rifles. There are primarily 2 types, ones that use colt SMG mags, and ones that use glock mags. A lot of people seam to get really excited about being able to use glock mags in an AR9 and there is practically a whole industry around making glock compatible AR9 lowers. I guess I really don't get what the big deal with using glock mags is. I can see if you already have a whole bunch of glock mags that you would save having to buy more mags, but I personally think a rifle with angled pistol mags looks ugly. Is difficult to make a last round hold open work with glock mags so most glock style lowers do not have last round hold open. The colt mags are much easier to load since they are double stack double feed just like an AR15 mag, they are not expensive, and they work very well.
 
Hey Chicharrones,
How have you been enjoying the Beretta?
One of my buddies picked up the Ruger carbine recently, and boy, I was sorely tempted, but I held off. Though, I think I'll get one later this year.

I'm lovin' the CX4. As you already know, it's about as light and short as a 16" barreled carbine comes that doesn't have a polymer hinge in the middle. :D

I'm waiting to see what the next version of the new Ruger PCC will be. Just a caliber change or something else, like a non-takedown version?
 
God every time I see a Hipoint carbine I can't help but think that they are the only thing that survived from the Planet of the Apes! They do work well though and are accurate. All apes aside, I recently picked up a Ruger PC Carbine and it is just stupid fun to shoot! I grew up on a Ruger 10/22, so this gun is a natural for me. It is a huge bonus that my wife can rock this thing as well. I was just shooting tonight with a buddy at an indoor range and was basically cutting single holes at 25 yards (I know, this is not very far, but still fun to see). It loves Magpul Glock magazines and has a great trigger out of the box with more upgrades for the trigger from Volquartsen on the way. It will currently take some 10/22 trigger parts. It ate 200 rounds faster than I want to admit and just keeps on chugging. And...when I am all done it breaks in half and stores in a very non-gun looking bag. I know there are cooler looking options out there, but I would really give this one a solid look over.
 
The 9mm carbines with a red dot and perhaps a flash light are perfect for home defense. I’m amazed at the accuracy you can get from shooting groups at a rapid pace. The recoil is non existent and shouldering the cartridge makes it boringly controllable and on target.
 
Hoping to find a nice 9mm Carbine. I welcome all suggestion. Thanks!

Welcome to THR, Mr. Murphy. :cool:

I only have one pistol caliber carbine. The turn of the 21st century styled Beretta CX4. If you don't mind the styling, there's a lot to like.

It's easy to shoot and easy on the shoulder. It's not a tight group shootin' target gun by any means. But, if you want a 9mm carbine for plinking, low cost centerfire blasting, and a home/urban defense "long" gun, the CX4 sure is a great option, IMO.

It comes with the dual aperture rear sight and post front sight that can fold down out of the way. Due to the thickness of the sight protecting "bat" ears, I like the gun best with a red dot.

Takedown for cleaning is a breeze as one pin is pushed out to allow sliding the upper and lower sections of the gun apart. As can be seen in this video.

The CX4 can also be changed over for a left handed shooter as the ejection direction and charging handle are an easy swap. Even the cross bolt safety and mag release can be swapped for a lefty, if you don't mind taking the gun apart a bit. Although the "slide" release (bolt release lever) isn't swapable, you can get around that by just pulling on the charging handle. Or add a second charging handle, like I did.

The one thing I would avoid on the CX4 is the Beretta branded 20 round magazines. The springs in those magazines are a stiff as the suspension springs on an old 4x4 pickup truck, which means loading them is a serious chore. Stick with the 15 round Beretta magazines or the 20 round MecGars and all is good. I can't speak for the 30 round magazines, as I don't have any.

My CX4 is 5.7 lbs. empty or 6.7 lbs. as pictured below with full 15 round magazine, Bushnell TRS-25 red dot on a 1/2" UTG riser, and a nylon sling. It is 29.7" short even with the 16+" barrel thanks to the magazine located in the pistol grip.

It's not for everyone, and the styling now seems dated. Kinda like Captain Nemo's Nautilus seems dated. Ahead of their time, but not modern anymore either, if you know what I mean. Lol. :D

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It's easy to shoot and easy on the shoulder. It's not a tight group shootin' target gun by any means.

Just curious, what kind of accuracy do you get from your Beretta? My hipoint shot about 2-3" at 50 yards. My AR9 with faxon barrel shoots about an inch mabey inch and a half at 50 yards.
 
Just curious, what kind of accuracy do you get from your Beretta? My hipoint shot about 2-3" at 50 yards. My AR9 with faxon barrel shoots about an inch mabey inch and a half at 50 yards.

The only time I've shot at paper for sighting in, 2" or 3" groups at 50 yards and 5" to 6" groups at 100 yards were the best I could remember doing. (Iron sights and red dot only, with bulk 124 grain ammo and cheap boxed 115 grain ammo.)

I blame most of this accuracy on the design and purpose of the CX4. It has a fairly heavy trigger, the barrel is supported in its middle due to the telescopic bolt, and it has a pencil thin barrel to boot. There is no way this gun is going to be a small target shooter. It's design just can't support fine accuracy, IMO.

It's a good thing I had some idea what to expect from the CX4 when I got it. Which is that it's a centerfire plinker with potential home defense uses. Plus, it's a great option for urbanites that use indoor ranges where there may be cartridge power restrictions.

Now, if Ruger makes the PCC in a non-takedown version, since that gun is built like a traditional rifle, then I can see the accuracy potential with that design.
 
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