kiss bullet feeder

[taliv]

from another thread...

jmorris:

I have both, my 650’s stay set up for pistol rounds and trimming rifle cases (one for large primers the other for small). I use the 1050 for .223, almost all of the brass I use has/had crimped primer pockets. The 650’s have GSI bullet feeders (so the powder check can be retained) the 1050 has a KISS bullet feeder (GSI doesn’t have one for .223 yet), all of them load as fast as you can complete a full up and down stroke. For pistol I’d say a 650 with case and bullet feeders and a RF 100 primer filler would be a better way to spend your money than just a 1050.

a couple questions:
does the feeder replace the normal powder check station? if so, how do you check to ensure powder dropped properly?

does the feeder push the bullet into the case somewhat? if not, what keeps the bullet from getting crooked or hopping out when the handle gets jerked a bit (say, from a case in the sizing station that didn't get enough lube)?

are there limits on what size bullets it can handle? either length or type, like flat base

how reliable has it been? out of 1000 cases, how many might you typically have to redo or reject?

 

[870]

Yes, the feeder does go in place of the powder check station. I have a 1050.

My loading bench is 32" high and I sit on a bar stool. With the proper lighting, I can see the powder in the case.

You get another powder drop tube and it puts a slightly more agressive flare on the case. The flare size is given in the instructions which happen to be the best that I have ever seen. When the time to drop the bullet comes, the handle is lowered and a bullet drops into the case, but you have to slow down a wee bit (I've found 2 seconds per round [1800rds/hr] to be fast enough) when you raise the handle. Then the bullet is seated as normal.

This picture shows the toolhead on a stand and the position of the bullet drop.



This picture shows the underside of the bullet drop on the press.



I hope this helps.

I have nothing but great things to say about this piece of kit. Roger at BulletFeeders is great to deal with, great to talk to, and gives service that, I believe, is second to none. The system is simplicity in its self, and resonably priced. With the GSI (and I don't know if it's working as advertised yet) you have to buy a proprietry tool head for every caliber whereas BulletFeeder uses the Dillon toolhead.

I load 4 calibers (38Sp, 9mm, 40S&W and 45ACP) for 1 press and I have bullet feeder conversions for all of them.

 

[jmorris]

The kiss feeder does replace the powder check station. I only use the KISS feeder for rifle loads, most all rifle loads I use are compressed so a double charge could never happen and it’s easy it’s level at the top of the case. For pistol I use the GSI feeders, as the small charges of fast powder (common in IDPA and USPSA minor) are harder to keep an eye on. The GSI feeders allow you to retain the powder check die as they feed and seat at the same station.
Unlike the GSI, the KISS just places a bullet on top of the case. The stack of bullets in the KISS feeder is what “tamps” the bullet into the case neck. For PISTOL rounds a special powder funnel comes with the KISS to expand the brass so the bullet will drop in “enough”. Rifle is a bit different (on a 1050) you adjust the expander on station 3 so the bullet stays put after dropping into the case at station 6 (also the reason the stack of bullets is twice as tall for the rifle rounds). Almost all of the rounds I load use boat tail bullets; however, the very few flat base bullets I’ve loaded worked fine.
As for reliability, the only rejects I have are if a round won’t case gauge (split or deformed in some way). \
I start out on a 650, deprime and size then to the size and trim die. Then into the 1050 where is runs through another deprime/size die on #2 (lazy mans deburr).

 

[taliv]

sweet! thanks guys!

i might have to add that to my wish list