Kofi Annan will move his MP-5's overseas..

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Feds Pressure Annan To Dump Machine Guns

UNITED NATIONS -- Under pressure from the Bush administration, the United Nations security department has decided to move a stache of controversial firearms out of the world body's New York City headquarters.
The MP-5 sub-machine guns, para-military assault rifles made by Heckler and Koch of Germany, are to be moved to U.N. peace keeping operations overseas, according to State Dept. sources.

As first reported in The Washington Times (February 2002), the UN originally purchased the highly restricted weapons for the personal protection of Secretary-General Kofi Annan in his travels around the New York-Metropolitan area.

The guns were often plainly visible in the support van of Annan's motorcade as it moved throughout the concrete canyons of Gotham.

It was unclear why the Annan bodyguards needed such high powered weapons, say sources within the State Dept's. Diplomatic Security Service (DSS).

Under a U.S. agreement with the United Nations, DSS bears the ultimate responsibility for Annan's protection within the borders of the United States.

The MP-5 is a strictly regulated firearm and currently can only be purchased by law enforcement bodies. It is popular among specialized police units such as SWAT and CAT (counter-assault) squads. It can easily be modified from a sub-machine to a full machine gun says its manufacturer, Heckler and Koch. Its use is also restricted to U.S. citizens, says the State Dept.

The U.N.'s security force does not have "law enforcement status," explained a source at the U.S./U.N. mission in New York.

According to DSS sources, if security concerns warrant, the U.S. is always prepared to increase the protection around Annan, which it has done on numerous occasions in the past.

No such concerns were known to have existed when the UN made the request to purchase the weapons in the late 1990's, says the State Dept.

The decision to obtain the controversial assault rifles was made by U.N. security chief Michael McCann in 1998, according to U.S. government sources.

About a half dozen were purchased by the world body.

McCann, a retired official from the New York City Police Dept., who has been at the U.N. in various posts since his arrival in the early 1990's, refused to respond to repeated inquiries on the subject.

ATF Denies:

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) which regulates the sale and purchase of the MP-5's, originally decided to deny the U.N. purchase permission.

There were several reasons for the denial according to State Dept. sources:

A key factor was the U.N. security department's lack of law enforcement status.

Another was the possibility of non-U.S. citizens being given access to the weapons.

Through political pressure coming from senior Clinton administration officials, the U.N. eventually got ATF to discreetly reverse its denial.

In February 2002, the Bush administration decided to review the purchase permit given to the United Nations. That review was prompted after a meeting between a member of Annan's security detail and a U.S. government official in New York.

The office of ATF's chief legal counsel then launched a detailed re-examination of the situation, according to bureau sources who spoke on background.

Shortly after the 2002 ATF examination, U.N. security officials tell NewsMax, the MP-5's were removed from Annan's security detail. The guns were subsequently suspended from active service and then secured in a locked facility inside U.N. headquarters.

The have remained there for over a year, say members of the U.N. security department.

Accommodation:

State Dept. sources tell NewsMax that ATF and the U.N. never reached an accommodation which would have allowed the rifles back on the streets of New York. In fact, the sources explained that ATF told the U.N. should the guns venture outside its mid-town Manhattan headquarters, it ran the risk of having them seized.

Firearms are not covered under the provisions of diplomatic immunity, says the State Dept.

Faced with a ban on the use of the firearms outside the U.N. and the possibility of an embarrassing confrontation, the world body and the U.S. agreed on a transfer of the rifles outside the country.

Where the guns are headed is a question neither ATF nor the United Nations would comment on.

"We were told that the guns are headed to U.N. peace keeping operations," so claimed one U.S. diplomat. The diplomat explained he had no idea which peace keeping operations, just that they were outside the United States.

The issue of when the arms transfer will take place is now a subject of debate.

Both State Dept. and ATF officials were led to believe the weapons had already left NYC. U.N. security officers tell NewsMax that as of last Friday the guns had not been moved. The officers added that there are no indications the weapons are planning to be relocated anytime in the near future.

An ATF source, speaking on background, still wondered why the guns were even bought to begin with:

"If someone really wanted to attack the U.N. (chief), they could easily use an RPG (rocket propelled grenade, as U.S. forces have seen in Iraq).

"When something like that happens, an MP-5 is not going to make any difference," he explained.

~Stewart Stogel of NewsMax.com
Monday, Aug. 11, 2003
 
Then why can't I have one?

You can, just a pre MG-ban one that costs 5 figures.

I think the quote "Its use is also restricted to U.S. citizens, says the State Dept." would be more accuately written "Ownership of MP5s is restricted in the US", as there's nothing preventing a legal permanent resident (IE, a green card holder) from owning firearms, NFA included.
 
but, but, but, but, <sputter>, <gag>. . . . .what is poor Kofi to do? He is defenseless! The leader of world government is unprotected.

What's that you say? Go somewhere else and them defend him?

Now does this mean lesser illuminaries in the UN have something less than an MP-5 protecting them? Does Blix get .45 ACP conversion kit?

I'd be willing to bet Kofi's MP-5's aren't the only ones in NY used by the UN.

Just a matter of time. . . . .
 
Now they need to load up the rest of the cargo, so-called diplomats included, and get them the hell out of here. Canada or France would make a good home for the UN. They no longer belong in the US.
 
"High powered weapon" :p Dang super zombie killer 9mms...

The MP-5 is a strictly regulated firearm and currently can only be purchased by law enforcement bodies. It is popular among specialized police units such as SWAT and CAT (counter-assault) squads. It can easily be modified from a sub-machine to a full machine gun says its manufacturer, Heckler and Koch. Its use is also restricted to U.S. citizens, says the State Dept.

So many things wrong with this one. Strictly regulated unless you leave your trunk open and it falls out, you leave it in your car to get stolen, etc. Glad those specialized police units are so much more responsible than we.

subgun to full machine gun huh? You mean it sprouts a bipod, a real barrel, and takes linked 7.62 all of a sudden? I want one of those. :D
 
It was unclear why the Annan bodyguards needed such high powered weapons, say sources within the State Dept's. Diplomatic Security Service (DSS).

I thought that a 9mm machine pistol was only a "high powered weapon" when in the hands of a law-abiding citizen... :confused:
 
"Both State Dept. and ATF officials were led to believe the weapons had already left NYC. U.N. security officers tell NewsMax that as of last Friday the guns had not been moved. The officers added that there are no indications the weapons are planning to be relocated anytime in the near future. "

Ain't there some kind of law that says if you lie to the Feds, you go to jail?


"Through political pressure coming from senior Clinton administration officials, the U.N. eventually got ATF to discreetly reverse its denial. "


And here is another name to the story?:D
 
The UN would seek to disarm us yet they arm themselves.

BTW, being without moral, I'm willing to raise a foreign flag over my house, declare it a consulate and accept these guns on behalf of my adopted nation. Anybody buy an island yet so I can raise your flag? Always wanted to be a Consulate General. Make $ selling postage stamps and issuing visas. ;)
 
Considering his views on rendering people defenseless the world over, it only brings a smile to my face to think of him completely unprotected and vulnerable as well.
 
He's Afraid of Americans

All those boys at the UN are. Abjectly terrified. They think we're all "cowboys," and they know a great many of us here see them for what they are--a rank assortment of kleptocrats and tyrants.
 
I see absolutely no reason for the UN to have any sort of defensive weapons at its NYC headquarters. Seems like they should rely on NY's finest for protection (just like the rest of the folks in NYC).

...unless, of course, the UN personnel have been granted the highly coveted "special citizen" status that only heavy $$ campaign contributors, and celebrities usually qualify for. It is well known that these indiviual's lives are worth protecting, while everyone else in the city is expendable.:cuss: !

To avoid anyconfusion, please note that this post is meant to be sarcastic in nature.
 
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