bainter1212
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So here it is: my grandfather is 84 and a veteran of the Korean War. He saw some hard fighting in Korea and just started to open up about his experiences in the last few years. He was always a good shot and qualified as an expert marksman in the Army.
As a result of his qualifications he was assigned to night time sniper duty for two weeks at one point during the war. Many men performed this duty and he was one of them. He described a "night vision scope" mounted on a rifle equipped with a bipod. He claims to have killed many enemy soldiers with this setup.
I did not quite believe my grandfather's tale of a night vision scope until I began to research the subject on my own. As it turns out, the U.S. government did in fact employ an early infrared scope, commonly referred to as a "snooperscope" in Korea. I was able to find pictures of this setup. My grandfather is not proficient with the internet so I asked him to describe the scope setup in detail ( He doesn't even know what a "google" is so he cannot have possibly done the research to make this up). He accurately described the setup that I had seen pictures of online, down to the smallest detail. He described the battery in it's box, the big light and the scope itself. He described how the setup was very bulky and by it's very nature immobile. They had it setup in a sandbag bunker and he shot at night across a canyon. Whenever a Chinese soldier would pop their head up out of a trench he would pull the trigger. I began to believe his story........but here is the rub:
Every document I can find has this scope setup mounted on an M1 or "M3" carbine. My grandfather SWEARS that he was shooting a rifle chambered in .303 British. So here is my question -
Is there any documentation of any Commonwealth - particularly Aussie or Canadian - experimenting with this infrared scope? I just cannot find any proof with a Google search. My grandfather recollects fighting alongside Commonwealth troops. He is not a gun nut like you or I though so he cannot confirm the model of gun, he won't budge from saying that it was a .303 though, he seems quite adamant about that. He shrugs his shoulders when I ask him if the gun could've possibly belonged to Canadian or Aussie troops....he says they told him to do it and he did, he didn't ask a lot of questions.
Just a piece of history I am curious about.
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As a result of his qualifications he was assigned to night time sniper duty for two weeks at one point during the war. Many men performed this duty and he was one of them. He described a "night vision scope" mounted on a rifle equipped with a bipod. He claims to have killed many enemy soldiers with this setup.
I did not quite believe my grandfather's tale of a night vision scope until I began to research the subject on my own. As it turns out, the U.S. government did in fact employ an early infrared scope, commonly referred to as a "snooperscope" in Korea. I was able to find pictures of this setup. My grandfather is not proficient with the internet so I asked him to describe the scope setup in detail ( He doesn't even know what a "google" is so he cannot have possibly done the research to make this up). He accurately described the setup that I had seen pictures of online, down to the smallest detail. He described the battery in it's box, the big light and the scope itself. He described how the setup was very bulky and by it's very nature immobile. They had it setup in a sandbag bunker and he shot at night across a canyon. Whenever a Chinese soldier would pop their head up out of a trench he would pull the trigger. I began to believe his story........but here is the rub:
Every document I can find has this scope setup mounted on an M1 or "M3" carbine. My grandfather SWEARS that he was shooting a rifle chambered in .303 British. So here is my question -
Is there any documentation of any Commonwealth - particularly Aussie or Canadian - experimenting with this infrared scope? I just cannot find any proof with a Google search. My grandfather recollects fighting alongside Commonwealth troops. He is not a gun nut like you or I though so he cannot confirm the model of gun, he won't budge from saying that it was a .303 though, he seems quite adamant about that. He shrugs his shoulders when I ask him if the gun could've possibly belonged to Canadian or Aussie troops....he says they told him to do it and he did, he didn't ask a lot of questions.
Just a piece of history I am curious about.
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