Salmoneye
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Watch the video...It was clearly a 7.65x21 (.30 Luger)...
Korean War Vet defends home with service weapon
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Watch the video...It was clearly a 7.65x21 (.30 Luger)...
Because the Media is a IDIOT...............
FIVETWOSEVEN
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I doubt they would find the less common .30 Luger casing over 9mm, even the media and show a photo of it on the ground.
I read these stories about vets having and using the very same SN weapon they were issued and carried in the army &c, and I go hurumph. Over 50 year ago I was in the army and if an assigned weapon was not checked in or disappeared, one hell of a ruckus was raised until the issue was resolved.
AethelstanAegen
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The scene in question is not stock footage of a shell casing, it's the vet showing us the case from the shot he took. So I think the debates over on this one...it was a .30 Luger.
Rampant_Colt
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Is it possible that this forward-thinking vet with his 7.65/.30 cal Luger would be capable of shooting commie 7.62x25 in a pinch? (in Korea). Brilliant!
http://world.guns.ru/ammunition/pistol-cartridges-e.html
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Are you saying that you can use 7.62 Soviet pistol rounds in the old German pistols chambered for .30 Luger?
The old man said he grabbed his Luger..........
Yeap, pretty sure that says Peters .30 Luger...............
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Rampant_Colt
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That's what I'm sayin'. I strongly suggest you don't try that with your own
SimplyChad
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i was so hoping it would be a 30 carbine lol
7.65x21mm luger and 7.63x25mm mauser are not the same, 7.62x25mm tokarev will chamber in a gun made for 7.63x25mm mauser and likewise the other way around, but I'm pretty sure that the 7.62x25mm tokarev is loaded to a higher pressure and would not be safe to use in a gun made for 7.63x25mm mauser, neither of those rounds will chamber in a gun made for 7.65x21mm luger.
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They won't work. 7.63 Mauser can be used in 7.62x25 but .30 Luger is shorter then both.
SharpsDressedMan
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I cannot believe that we are still arguing about that which we cannot prove with the limited info at had. Why doesn't someone just CALL the guy and ask him what type of gun he used?
FIVETWOSEVEN
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He said he grabbed his Luger and we are shown a .30 Luger case. What more info could you want?
paradox998
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If memory serves, 30 cal lugers were early models, around 1900- 1906 and are not too common. In case it did the job.
SharpsDressedMan
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You are correct. I missed that Yahoo video. He says "German Luger", and the photo referenced shows a .30 Luger shell made by Peters. If we can assume the old guy knows of what he speaks, and the picture is that of the evidence (released by the police?), then we have a winner!
SharpsDressedMan
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I'm sure he does, but Alzheimer's and the current trend for some to call every pistol a "Glock" gives us just a little doubt. I think in the old days, any pistol from "the Big War" was called a "Luger". D Just kidding!)
D Just kidding!)
ArfinGreebly
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He clearly says, "German Luger."
He fired the shot while standing in the inner doorway of his kitchen, several yards from the outer door.
The shell casing, clearly a .30 Luger, is shown lying outside. I wonder why they felt the need to stage the casing shot outside.
There's no way a Luger action, fired some ten feet or more from the outer door (with the door closed, by the way: see bullet hole in glass), ejects that empty casing outside into the gravel.
Either a) someone staged that shot outside to get better lighting, or b) someone dug through the archives to find a "Luger" shell casing, and what they found was an outside picture.
In other words, the picture we are shown is not a shot of an unmolested crime scene. It's either staged or cut together from convenient archive footage.
In any case, we're talking about a Luger.
He clearly says, "German Luger."
He fired the shot while standing in the inner doorway of his kitchen, several yards from the outer door.
The shell casing, clearly a .30 Luger, is shown lying outside. I wonder why they felt the need to stage the casing shot outside.
There's no way a Luger action, fired some ten feet or more from the outer door (with the door closed, by the way: see bullet hole in glass), ejects that empty casing outside into the gravel.
Either a) someone staged that shot outside to get better lighting, or b) someone dug through the archives to find a "Luger" shell casing, and what they found was an outside picture.
In other words, the picture we are shown is not a shot of an unmolested crime scene. It's either staged or cut together from convenient archive footage.
In any case, we're talking about a Luger.
AethelstanAegen
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One of the videos shows the old man with the shell case (which you can see is a necked cartridge). So I think we can settle this. All of the videos, if you watch them, seem to pretty clearly point to a .30 Luger.
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And it's just as likely that pistol had followed one of this guy's family home from WW-I or WW-II, and he ended up carrying it in Korea. In Vietnam, a troop having a "personal" firearm, in addition to their issued weapon, was the norm rather than the exception. Or he could have liberated it from a North Korean Officer, they didn't have a real strict "TO&E" in the North Korean Army any more than the NVA did.
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