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Just got a KRISS Super V CRB 45 caliber carbine today. Giving you all my first impressions today. The gun will be going to the range this week and I will update this post with my findings.
This is not a cheap gun. Usually about $1800 or so. But it is a very cool looking gun. I like cool looking guns and have learned that most of these are quirky and finicky. Thats the deal with ANYTHING exotic (cars, women, you get my drift). The carbine comes in a decent but not fancy plastic case. Some basic gun maintenance stuff is includes as is a manual, lock and note saying you have to lubricate the gun per section 5 of the manual. Other sources have told me NOT to ignore this pointer as the gun 'looks' wet, but that is corrosion protections stuff, not proper lubricant. So I read the manual and field stripped the gun. Basically its 4 pins that have to be removed, then the upper and power part come apart. The ingenious bolt assembly might just drop out (next to the magazine shaft) at this point. Cleaned, lubricated everything with TW25 and put it back together. As with any gun in my experience there was some playing around until I figured out how the bolt assembly fit back in. The manual has pictures the size of tiny stamps to illustrate this... go figure.
The charging handle mechanism is really stiff. Much stiffer than an AK for example. Good part is you only have to pull back a couple of inches. Hope this gets easier as the gun breaks in. KRISS recommends only a couple brands of ammo for this gun, all essentially 230 grain ball ammo. Sounds like NO lead reloads for this baby. One 13 round Glock 21 magazine is included. Thats the only brand that will work the manual says. The is a mag extension kit for the 21 that turns it into a big ass 30 rounder...! So firepower a plenty.
More to follow soon...
UPDATE 5/10/11
Took the Kriss to the range today. Loaded it with my 'standard' 45 ACP reload which is 230 grain Zero bullet FMJ over ~5.0 grains of Bullseye and whatever primer, today they were Wolf. Lo and behold, worked A-OK. No problems at all. This was a load (pun intended) off my back as the manual flat out says reloads void the warranty and only several factory brands have the seal of approval. Within 10 shots I had my EoTech sighted in (takes a lot of clicks to move the point of impact with those EoTechs) at 25 yards which is just about perfect for my action shooting. The recoil really is surprisingly light. I would say just about the same, or a tiny bit less, than my KelTec Sub 2000 9mm carbine.
To sum it up:
Pro - Cool gun, pretty accurate 45 ACP carbine (<6" groups at 100 yards), cheap ammo to reload, easy to field strip, mil-spec construction and materials
Con - Expensive, kind of bulky, only takes real Glock 21 mags, does not like lead bullets nor hollow point jacketed ammo.
This is not a cheap gun. Usually about $1800 or so. But it is a very cool looking gun. I like cool looking guns and have learned that most of these are quirky and finicky. Thats the deal with ANYTHING exotic (cars, women, you get my drift). The carbine comes in a decent but not fancy plastic case. Some basic gun maintenance stuff is includes as is a manual, lock and note saying you have to lubricate the gun per section 5 of the manual. Other sources have told me NOT to ignore this pointer as the gun 'looks' wet, but that is corrosion protections stuff, not proper lubricant. So I read the manual and field stripped the gun. Basically its 4 pins that have to be removed, then the upper and power part come apart. The ingenious bolt assembly might just drop out (next to the magazine shaft) at this point. Cleaned, lubricated everything with TW25 and put it back together. As with any gun in my experience there was some playing around until I figured out how the bolt assembly fit back in. The manual has pictures the size of tiny stamps to illustrate this... go figure.
The charging handle mechanism is really stiff. Much stiffer than an AK for example. Good part is you only have to pull back a couple of inches. Hope this gets easier as the gun breaks in. KRISS recommends only a couple brands of ammo for this gun, all essentially 230 grain ball ammo. Sounds like NO lead reloads for this baby. One 13 round Glock 21 magazine is included. Thats the only brand that will work the manual says. The is a mag extension kit for the 21 that turns it into a big ass 30 rounder...! So firepower a plenty.
More to follow soon...
UPDATE 5/10/11
Took the Kriss to the range today. Loaded it with my 'standard' 45 ACP reload which is 230 grain Zero bullet FMJ over ~5.0 grains of Bullseye and whatever primer, today they were Wolf. Lo and behold, worked A-OK. No problems at all. This was a load (pun intended) off my back as the manual flat out says reloads void the warranty and only several factory brands have the seal of approval. Within 10 shots I had my EoTech sighted in (takes a lot of clicks to move the point of impact with those EoTechs) at 25 yards which is just about perfect for my action shooting. The recoil really is surprisingly light. I would say just about the same, or a tiny bit less, than my KelTec Sub 2000 9mm carbine.
To sum it up:
Pro - Cool gun, pretty accurate 45 ACP carbine (<6" groups at 100 yards), cheap ammo to reload, easy to field strip, mil-spec construction and materials
Con - Expensive, kind of bulky, only takes real Glock 21 mags, does not like lead bullets nor hollow point jacketed ammo.
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