KY carry restrictions?

[hso]

I'm making a last minute run to Kentucky right now and need to know what KY carry restrictions are. I do have reciprosity with KY.

What postings are valid and have the force of law behind them?

Thanks

 

[dovedescending]

http://www.kentuckycarry.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=5

Seems like a pretty comprehensive list of verboten areas.

 

[Sam1911]

handgunlaw.us says

- no carry in a bar or the bar area of a restaurant
- police stations, courthouses
- child care facilities
- privately owned medical facilities may post against carry with force of law
- private employers may prohibit employees from carrying
- Rest stops, state parks, state forests, except for "Land Between the Lakes" BUT the USDA forest service folks say they will honor permits as long as there are no other negative circumstances.

That's all I see on their site.

 

[W L Johnson]

- private employers may prohibit employees from carrying

But they cannot prohibit you from leaving it in your car while working. (in Ky)

 

[Knotthead]

- Rest stops, state parks, state forests, except for "Land Between the Lakes" BUT the USDA forest service folks say they will honor permits as long as there are no other negative circumstances.

These seem to be presented as restricted areas in your post, though the site referenced indicates otherwise for rest stops, state parks, and state forests. The Land Between the Lakes Recreational Area is, I believe, administered under the National Parks, which may account for the restrictions. This may be outdated by the recent changes. Mammoth Cave National Park and the Lincoln Birthplace National Historic Site are probably similarly affected.

 

[Sam1911]

These seem to be presented as restricted areas in your post, though the site referenced indicates otherwise

Uh...yeah. That came out all wrong. SORRY! Rest stops, state parks, state forests are all GOOD. The "LBTL" lands are the questionable one, but it sounds like you should be ok there too.

 

[hso]

Any specific wording or symbols required as elsewhere or is a "No Weapons" sign enough to make it illegal?

 

[Sam1911]

I haven't seen any language that says there's any requirements on the sign.

Handgunlaw.us only says about this:

If the building or the premises are open to the public, the employer or business enterprise shall post signs on or about the premises if carrying concealed weapons is prohibited.

But, again, that only seems to relate to very specific businesses, mostly in the healthcare field.

Best I can tell you at the moment.

 

[Knotthead]

Any specific wording or symbols required as elsewhere or is a "No Weapons" sign enough to make it illegal?

I'm pretty sure there are no specific requirements on signage for posted privately owned establishments, but they do not carry any legal penalty either. You can only be asked to leave and cited with trespass if you refuse to comply.

I believe requirements were passed a few years ago requiring posted signage on buildings which were prohibited by law, such as schools, or areas designated off limits by local governments. Not sure if there are any specifications for these signs.

 

[Ole Coot]

I carry in KY weekly and have a relative with the KYSP. KY recognizes most carry permits and residents aren't limited to a firearm. They can carry anything from an axe to a Bowie with a weapons permit, not a pistol or revolver permit as mine states. A resident can carry an AR down his pants leg if he wants, legally.

 

[Gary Slider]

LBL is controlled by the United States Dept of Agriculture. It is administered by the US Forest Service which is part of the USDA.

 

[sarge83]

"- private employers may prohibit employees from carrying
But they cannot prohibit you from leaving it in your car while working. (in Ky) "

Actually where I work they are saying just that it is verboten and there is an ongoing lawsuit about this restriction.

One of the local police officers bluntly told me that if this particular employer called his dept. and demanded they search a vehicle for them he would not allow his officers to search it without a search warrant.

Lots of confusion out there on this one.

 

[W L Johnson]

Actually where I work they are saying just that it is verboten and there is an ongoing lawsuit about this restriction.

They need to read Ky state law.

From Ky 527.020

A firearm or other deadly weapon shall not be deemed concealed on or about the person if it is located in a glove compartment, regularly installed in a motor vehicle by its manufacturer, regardless of whether said compartment is locked, unlocked, or does not have a locking mechanism. No person or organization, public or private, shall prohibit a person from keeping a firearm or ammunition, or both, or other deadly weapon in a glove compartment of a vehicle in accordance with the provisions of this subsection. Any attempt by a person or organization, public or private, to violate the provisions of this subsection may be the subject of an action for appropriate relief or for damages in a Circuit Court or District Court of competent jurisdiction.

From Ky 237.106

237.106 Right of employees and other persons to possess firearms in vehicle -- Employer liable for denying right -- Exceptions.
(1) No person, including but not limited to an employer, who is the owner, lessee, or occupant of real property shall prohibit any person who is legally entitled to possess a firearm from possessing a firearm, part of a firearm, ammunition, or ammunition component in a vehicle on the property.
(2) A person, including but not limited to an employer, who owns, leases, or otherwise occupies real property may prevent a person who is prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a firearm or ammunition from possessing a firearm or ammunition on the property.
(3) A firearm may be removed from the vehicle or handled in the case of self-defense, defense of another, defense of property, or as authorized by the owner, lessee, or occupant of the property.
(4) An employer that fires, disciplines, demotes, or otherwise punishes an employee who is lawfully exercising a right guaranteed by this section and who is engaging in conduct in compliance with this statute shall be liable in civil damages. An employee may seek and the court shall grant an injunction against an employer who is violating the provisions of this section when it is found that the employee is in compliance with the provisions of this section.
(5) The provisions of this section shall not apply to any real property:
(a) Owned, leased, or occupied by the United States government, upon which the possession or carrying of firearms is prohibited or controlled;
(b) Of a detention facility as defined in KRS 520.010; or
(c) Where a section of the Kentucky Revised Statutes specifically prohibits possession or carrying of firearms on the property.
Effective: July 12, 2006
History: Created 2006 Ky. Acts ch. 240, sec. 8, effective July 12, 2006.

Lots of confusion out there on this one.

Ky state law is very clear on this.