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LaserMax guide rod laser...?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by RedAlert, Jan 18, 2013.

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  1. RedAlert

    RedAlert Member

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    I've an opportunity to get a LaserMax guide rod laser for my Sig P229 in 40 S&W and I'm curious if it has proved reliable or not? Also is accuracy out to about 30 feet acceptable?

    I did a search on the Lasermax and read lots of stories on lasers in general. I'm interested in specifics on this caliber and this Sig.

    Thanks.
     
  2. 2wheels

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    I don't like the idea of replacing the guide rod with a laser, if it breaks for any reason your gun most likely fails along with it.

    I much prefer the Crimson Trace laser, the activation method (gripping the gun) is much better, and if it somehow breaks your gun is still functional.
     
  3. hentown

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    I don't like the mechanics of replacing a guide rod with a laser-filled guide rod. Also, don't want an optical device that I can't adjust for windage and elevation.
     
  4. larry237

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    I have a LM guide rod laser in my Glock 23 and it hasn't had a problem for over 10 years. I like it a lot, since it vastly improves my ability to use the gun effective in low light, when bad things usually happen. It has always been very close to POI, with only a slight variation with ammo. I originally thought that the laser sight was a little off, because it didn't line exactly with the sights, but I found that the rear sight was off. I have shot it out to 15 to 20 yards and it has been on target beyond my abilities to shoot it.
     
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  5. wally

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    Deal breaker for me too, unless I found a place that'd take it back if the alignment wasn't good enough.

    Obviously if you get one that is well aligned lack of adjustments should make it more rugged.

    If they were 1/3rd the price I might take a chance on one, But the laser grips work well and were easy to zero.
     
  6. sobx

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    I had one

    in an XD9 and I rather liked it for what it was designed. I found it about an inch off of sights at 20 feet, but I thought that was acceptable, and shooting at range was about the same at dusk (can't see in the daylight). Install was easy and operation was easy.

    Won't get another one though, since the price is so dang high. I'll get the Lasermax UniMax and it is adjustable for windage and elevation I believe, half the cost, removable quickly, and doesn't change the gun. Has a mount under if for light also, which I have a love on XD. In fact, in anything close inside my home, the light illuminates the foreground so well the sights are easily viewable, but in reality I'll aim for the big white spot from the light. Center of spot is center of aim on sights. Convenient.
     
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    I have to agree with larry237. I've had one in my Springfield XD Service 45 at least 6 or 7 years. It doesn't need any adjustment. They are calibrated from the factory. I have shot thousands of rounds through my XD without any problem with the guide rod. It's a good product, I recommend you buy one. Plus you don't need a special holster.
     
  8. RedAlert

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    Thanks folks.

    Red
     
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    I myself just bought a Crimson Trace for my M&Pc and so far really like it. It activates when I grip the gun to shoot, but if I don't want the laser to show my position, I just lighten up my grip just a bit, bingo its off. I don't want to have to flip some switch to activate a laser under stress, just want to grip, point & shoot if nessary. LM
     
  11. dalv

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    I'll chime in with good experience on the LaserMax GuideRod in my Glock 36. I really like it and find it very close to POI - different loads do change a little but better than I can hold it anyway. Not sure but thought it was adjustable - close enough I never tried.
    I did have a minor problem with the slidelock - did not disable the firearm just wouldn't stay in the "on" position unless held. I ordered a couple replacements (wanted a spare) and actually re-installed the stock slidelock until the replacements came in the mail.
    I like the ability to use the standard IWB holster and no visible laser on the gun. No regrets on my part.
    Wish they were available for more models (Colt Mustang would be awesome)
    Dalv
     
  12. allaroundhunter

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    Tarosean linked you to my thread about my lasermax.

    It broke (the battery cap is a cheap plastic) and rendered the gun inoperable, and actually made it near impossible to field strip the gun. For that reason alone, I will not own another one.

    Another reason to pass on it, is because unlike the Crimson Trace lasers, you don't have a momentary feature or ability to block the laser with your finger to keep it from being seen when it is on. The CT laser is much more ergonomic, and is just a better laser all around. Also, it is adjustable whereas the lasermax is not.
     
  13. RedAlert

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    Thanks. Doesn't sound like something I want to have fail when I need it most.

    Red
     
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    Gentlemen:

    1. I think it HIGHLY unlikely that the LaserMax guide rod will fail. It's quite well made and I doubt it's any more likely to fail than the original Glock guide rod. I suppose the laser could fail but that wouldn't stop you from shooting your gun.

    2. I actually installed a LaserMax guide rod last evening and couldn't resist the chance to try it out my window in the dark of night at some boxes out in my yard. Ranges of the 3 boxes were probably 15 to a bit over 30 feet. The two milk cartons which were at probably 15 and 20 feet were drilled right in the middle where I was aiming and the further box was shot a bit high but it was an off hand shot and the fault may not have been with the sight. In any case, if it had been a combat situation even the further shot would have taken out the assailant.

    In my opinion, in a handgun of the type the LaserMax is meant to be installed in, the lack of windage and elevation adjustments is a non issue.
     
  15. mes228

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    Lasermax

    I've had one in my wife's pistol for years. Very good product and easy to use. As for durability, I understand they are the only Laser device approved for military use (NATO) or so I've read. I do not use a laser. But I must say that my wife, who seldom shoots, will out shoot 95% of men without one. The LM is also very accurate ie "in the bulls eye" at 10-15 yards.
     
  16. allaroundhunter

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    Grumulkin, my Lasermax did fail. And it failed in the last catastrophic way; it completely locked up my gun. It wouldn't fire, and it wouldn't even disassemble easily.

    Sure, they are nice when they work.... But Murphy has a way of coming along when you'd rather not see him.

    Sent from my HTC One X
     
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