Have any of you all used this brand? I am shooting 45 acp. It looks to be reasonable in price, and a little different in the materials...with some silver. Who would have ever thought that silver would be so cheap that it would be used in bullets.
Lasr Cast Silver bullets
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redneck2
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I use them...
in 45 acp and 45 Colt. Cleaner shooting than other brands with softer lube. Can't give you any hard facts about accuracy, etc. vs. other brands but they seem OK.
FWIW...a local dealer here sells a LOT of reloading stuff, particularly to IPSC, plate shooters, etc. They burn up a lot of them, so I trust they must be pretty good. I get relatively little leading.
in 45 acp and 45 Colt. Cleaner shooting than other brands with softer lube. Can't give you any hard facts about accuracy, etc. vs. other brands but they seem OK.
FWIW...a local dealer here sells a LOT of reloading stuff, particularly to IPSC, plate shooters, etc. They burn up a lot of them, so I trust they must be pretty good. I get relatively little leading.
Jim Watson
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They are good bullets, I have shot .45 ACP and .30 from them.
The lead in their bullets is a byproduct of silver mining and refining, which is Oregon Trail's main business. It just doesn't pay to get ALL the silver out of the colocated lead. Supposedly they found a combination of residual silver and impurities that gave a hard lead alloy at very little cost to Oregon Trail, so they came out with the Laser Cast bullets.
The lead in their bullets is a byproduct of silver mining and refining, which is Oregon Trail's main business. It just doesn't pay to get ALL the silver out of the colocated lead. Supposedly they found a combination of residual silver and impurities that gave a hard lead alloy at very little cost to Oregon Trail, so they came out with the Laser Cast bullets.
I have used a few of them in .45 ACP and they're okay, but they are definitely not worth the shipping price if you can't get them locally.
There's a local guy here that makes bullets in a garage and I just buy them from him. With 3.8 grains of Clays and a 200 gr. LRNFP bullet, it's darned accurate. Plus, he charges about $12/K less than Laser Cast bullets, IIRC.
DAL
There's a local guy here that makes bullets in a garage and I just buy them from him. With 3.8 grains of Clays and a 200 gr. LRNFP bullet, it's darned accurate. Plus, he charges about $12/K less than Laser Cast bullets, IIRC.
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happy old sailor
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laser cast is about all i shoot anymore. these bullets are very hard. drop one on the table and it sounds about like it is made of silver, of course it is not.
gotta shove them or they do not obturate. need softer formula for slow bullets.
have had no rejects from laser cast, and little to no leading in my magnums. accuracy seems on par with factory projectiles.
gotta shove them or they do not obturate. need softer formula for slow bullets.
have had no rejects from laser cast, and little to no leading in my magnums. accuracy seems on par with factory projectiles.
achadwick
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Another vote for Lasercast
I use them in my S&W 686 and love them. Accurate with very little leading.
I use them in my S&W 686 and love them. Accurate with very little leading.
braindead0
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I've used them, as well as Meistercast. Both are suitable for driving pretty darned fast.
The only complaint I have (as pointed out by happy old sailer) is you gotta drive them fast. Which is a problem for my IDPA loads, I'm not quite a bit over the required power factor just to keep the leading to a minimum.
As soon as I get a lubrisizer (tried unsized with liquid alox, no good) I'll be able to slow down a bit using wheelweight lead.
The only complaint I have (as pointed out by happy old sailer) is you gotta drive them fast. Which is a problem for my IDPA loads, I'm not quite a bit over the required power factor just to keep the leading to a minimum.
As soon as I get a lubrisizer (tried unsized with liquid alox, no good) I'll be able to slow down a bit using wheelweight lead.
Laser-Cast bullets are very good. I shoot them almost exclusively in 5 different calibers. Their claim of "no leading" isn't quite true, but it's pretty close to the truth. I have been able to retire my Lewis lead remover; but it does come out every now and then for a consulting job. 
According to the assay of L-C bullets, they do contain a trace amount of silver, but I think it's only because it's in the ore they use, not because they add it for any beneficial reason.
Shipping is now included, so that is no longer a factor in choosing them or not.
Another comment I have is on their customer service. About 3 years ago, I received a box of 1000 bullets that had gone through the UPS Automatic Crusher and Dropper (Pat Pend). There was a small hole at a corner and about 100 or so bullets had leaked out enroute. I called them to see if I could get the 100 replaced. They were very pleasant on the phone, but they didn't send me the 100 I asked for, they sent a full box of 500 by express shipping. Talk about expensive shipping! That goes in the "excellent service" category.
According to the assay of L-C bullets, they do contain a trace amount of silver, but I think it's only because it's in the ore they use, not because they add it for any beneficial reason.
Shipping is now included, so that is no longer a factor in choosing them or not.
Another comment I have is on their customer service. About 3 years ago, I received a box of 1000 bullets that had gone through the UPS Automatic Crusher and Dropper (Pat Pend). There was a small hole at a corner and about 100 or so bullets had leaked out enroute. I called them to see if I could get the 100 replaced. They were very pleasant on the phone, but they didn't send me the 100 I asked for, they sent a full box of 500 by express shipping. Talk about expensive shipping! That goes in the "excellent service" category.
MoNsTeR
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I've shot about 500 of them in the past month or so. They're much less smoky than the other brand of cast bullets I'd tried, and they shoot very well. But "no leading" my ***. They're too hard for .45ACP velocities so they lead the first third or so of the barrel, but not badly. What really irks me is the lead they leave in the chamber! I don't know if this is a problem with the Oregon Trail bullets or cast bullets in general or a problem with my gun, but either way I'll probably go back to plated bullets.
EchoSixMike
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IIRC silver helps bullets stay at the tempered state if you're heat treating. They'll still go back to the natural hardness after some time, but silver extends that period. I'm sure a metalurgist could provide better info.
Very few companies heat treat their bullets, so I doubt this is a major advantage. S/F...Ken M
Very few companies heat treat their bullets, so I doubt this is a major advantage. S/F...Ken M
braindead0
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Leading in the first part of the barrel seems to be common (at least for me) with low velocity loads.
For .45 ACP I don't use anything except wheelweight lead, works like a charm and doesn't lead up at all...seems about the right hardness.
Wonder why nobody is making 'Softcast' bullets for this purpose?
For .45 ACP I don't use anything except wheelweight lead, works like a charm and doesn't lead up at all...seems about the right hardness.
Wonder why nobody is making 'Softcast' bullets for this purpose?
stans
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Actually, a few companies do make softer cast bullets, but advertising sometimes wins out over practicality. Advertising a cast bullet that cannot be driven over 900 fps just doesn't sound as good as "over 1200 fps with no leading".
Carlos
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I'm using them exclusively for .45 S&W, 38, and .45 ACP. Found a place locally that sells em and you can't beat the price. I had some shipped once, and that was too darned expensive for me to justify using the product.
In fact, tonight I'm going shopping for a couple thousand Silver Bullets.
In fact, tonight I'm going shopping for a couple thousand Silver Bullets.
Detritus
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the company I'd recomend as in my experience a little better over all and at slower loadings esp. Precision Bullets does not unfortunately have a distributor out your way. locally Precision seems to have a rather good following amoung various competitive shooters.
And though i personally don't use slower loadings most of the shooters who turned me on to Precision DO. at the time i was shooting CAS matches and the top competitors in that sport tend to make their loads a little on the wimpy side ( .38 Spl or worse .45Colt loads that go "Piff" instead of bang) adn there are no complaints of excessive leading etc.
maybe it's the coating they use, or the alloy, or both i don't know.. but you might want to take a look anyway.
And though i personally don't use slower loadings most of the shooters who turned me on to Precision DO. at the time i was shooting CAS matches and the top competitors in that sport tend to make their loads a little on the wimpy side ( .38 Spl or worse .45Colt loads that go "Piff" instead of bang) adn there are no complaints of excessive leading etc.
maybe it's the coating they use, or the alloy, or both i don't know.. but you might want to take a look anyway.
... and deer and wolves and bears, oh my!
I think Randy Garrett would definitely disagree with the notion that a lead bullet can be too hard.
http://www.garrettcartridges.com/products.asp
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Pendragon
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I used some to shoot a werewolf and he just laughed at me and scratched my arm.
Should I be worried?
Should I be worried?
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