LCP Failures

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Jotobo

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Since purchasing the gun I have had 4 failures.

I have 2 with Remington UMC and 2 with Winchester white box.

At this point there have been 400 or more rounds put through it and I imagine that is well past the "break in" period.

I have to admit, that is pretty concerning...what say you fellas?
 
You'll have to be a bit more specific on the type of failure. Failure to fire, feed, or eject? Are all failures with factory magazines?
 
3 FTF and 1 FTE, the FTE was with the Winchester, it was a stovepipe to be specific.

I have a real solid grip on the thing as well.
 
Is the FTF, preventing the slide from going into battery? A tap to the back of the slide usually gets you shooting again. The factory 9lb recoil springs are notorious for doing this. You can buy Wolff springs (11,12 & 13lb) I went with 12lb......Problem now with the 12lb spring is it's peening the guide rod.

Many have experienced peened guide rods with the factory 9lb spring also....I didn't notice it till stepping up to the 12lb. The heavier spring has solved my FTF problem and replacement guide rods are cheap so I'll go that route, over the FTF.

I had a few stovepipes also. Mine were with Wolf Gold HP (made by Prvi) and an old box of Silver Bear I had laying around, that I wanted to get rid of. Ruger said to shoot American ammo in it. I complained, they rescinded and said Saami spec ammo. I said Wolf Gold/Prvi is Saami spec. :rolleyes:

Beretta 84FS has shot over 500 rounds of the Wolf Gold and one box of the Silver Bear....NO malfunctions!

Switched to RWS/FMJ and haven't had anymore trouble. Guide rod is still peening though but it does fit nice in a pocket. LOL
 
The only time I notice a little bit of FTF is when the magazine is full and is inserted into the gun, stripping that first round off the magazine does kind of slow the slide down a bit, the slide seems to not operate as quickly as each succeeding round. This is with all OEM magazines (made in Italy stamped on them).

However, I have never had a fail to feed or fire because of it.

I use Tetra grease on the slide, on the lower part of the slide which cocks the hammer and on the double spring and rod.

Out of all the factory ammo and reloads I have shot out of my LCP, I would estimate there are over 500 rounds through it now.
 
my wife and i have had our LCP for a little over a month now, prob have 200+ rounds through it (it's a used gun, so not sure how many through before we had it). It simply does not like Federal- Both the FMJ and JHP (standard walmart cheap FMJ, fancy hydra-shock JHP) would give us numerous fail to feed, but would always fire when finally chambered.
No problems at all with any Remington ammo (FMJ/JHP) we've put through it, or the winchester FMJ either.
 
Just me maybe, but I don't have much use for a pistol being used for self-defense that is picky with ammunition types/brands-within reason. My LCP has functioned perfectly with hardball as well as Federal Hydra-Shocks, though I've got less than 100 rounds through it thus far.
Probably not what the op wants to hear but, if it were my pistol, I'd be calling Ruger for a pre-paid mailing label and let them have a look-see. I doubt that the malfunctioning he's experiencing will cure itself. In my experience, Ruger pistols typically don't require "break-in" shots to run right.
 
I've had one for almost 2 years. It had FTF. I could see where at the top of the barrel, where it is flat, it was getting scuff marks from the slide. I took a very fine small flat file and just honed the slide a little, test fired it, filed a little more and test fired it. Perfect now. I also sent it in for the recall and had the update or whatever it was, and got the free magazine. I've shot winchester white box and blazer ammo. Works perfect. Fun little gun. It's not my first choice for protection, but if I need a pocket gun, it works.
 
It had FTF. I could see where at the top of the barrel, where it is flat, it was getting scuff marks from the slide. I took a very fine small flat file and just honed the slide a little, test fired it, filed a little more and test fired it. Perfect now. I also sent it in for the recall and had the update or whatever it was
Do you expect the average "Joe" who has similar problems with the LCP go ahead with some amateur gunsmithing? Not being facetious....That's not the way it's supposed to go. I've only test-fired one, don't own one and I knew from just trying to grip it: I didn't want one...After the initial recall, I knew they rushed to judgement on quick production for the growing miniature mania....
 
Absolutely not. But I'm not sure what the OP's skill level is, so I'd thought I'd at least throw it out there. Also, I figured, for a gun that cost me $299, pretty small loss if I screw it up. I got lucky. I've heard people say that Ruger rushed this one to market. I don't know if that's true or not. Ends up it's a neat little gun for $299.

I should have known better. One shouldn't post load recipes nor gunsmithing tips. The liability is huge. Jotobo, completely ignore my previous post. Consult with a professional or the factory.
 
I hear people recommend polishing the feed ramp, I have not done that....

Thoughts?
 
I took my new Ms. LCP out to the range for our first date today and we had a great time together. :D

First I fed her 75 rounds of Remington UMC 95gr FMJ without as much as a burp … so I did some limp wrists to see what she’d think.

The first two went boom without a problem but the third one failed to feed so I tapped her on the rear of her slide and in it went … pulled the trigger … she said boom-yah.

So I finished the last 22 rounds of the 100 I had and she ate um all up without any problems. The one FTFeed was the only glitch I had, which I blame on the limp wrist not the gun. Or it being dirty at that point.

Then for desert … I fed her 15 rounds of Winchester 95gr Ranger T-Series I got last weekend at the gun show when I got her, they were $35.00 for a box of 50 rounds, and finished our first date off with 14 Hornady 90rg Critical Defense and she liked um all.

I am happy to report that our first date was a total success. The one FTFeed was the only glitch I had. Which like I said happened during a 3rd limp wrist in a row.

In closing:

1. Out of the box I cleaned her up, but all I had was gun-oil and didn’t have any grease to lube her sliding parts so after running the first 75 rounds she may have been a little sticky/dirty which could account for the limp wrist FTFeed? I’m getting some grease so I’ll try it again and see if that helps. I’m going to buff the feed ramp too so that might help a little bit?? Bass Pro only has Shooters Choice grease is that any good??? But that’s all I can find for now. I want to try some Militec-1 but haven’t found any yet. The one FTFeed was the only glitch I had. Which like said it could have been because of a dirty sticky slide leading to be needing a better-lubed issue???

2. She didn’t kick as much as I thought she would which is a good thing. Follow up shots weren’t as bad as I’ve heard they can be… even with the Winchester 95gr T-Series which I hear can be quite a wicked SDR, but I want to try some FNHC rounds something like a Buffalo Bore 100gr standard HCFN, or do you have any other FN suggestions??

3. I really couldn’t tell the difference in recoil between the Winchester T-Series and the Hornady 90rg Critical Defense, but the Winchesters did feel a bit more robust, but not by very much to speak off. Follow up shots were not a problem for me like I said with either one. And once I started getting used to the Point Of Impact … at 15+ft I had some first-time nice groups on paper.

4. Being our first time together I did notice a long trigger pull when I was thinking about it too much “Like ... when is this thing going to go boom?” But only when I was fully concentrating way too-too-tooooo much on the target. Other wise it didn’t seem to bother me much when I was just taking shots.

5. At 15+ ft I was able to keep all 129 rounds within a 7-inch circle, which IMHO I think isn’t too bad for my first time shooting it. Once I got used to the all but realism sights I was able to tighten up my groups a bit with only an 8 Inch flyer or two but I’ll relent to only 4 out of 129 round max. :rolleyes:

6. Once I get used to the useless sights and put some pinkish nail polish on the front sight to brighten it up I think I’ll do better. :p

Which brings me to this question …

7. What about a Crimson Trace Laser?? I do have a steady hand so it shouldn’t flitter about too-too-toooo bad and if I do get one should I calibrate it at 15, 20, 25, or maybe 30ft out??

So over all I had fun with my new LCP and I didn’t have any problems running 129 round down range and I could have flung more rounds down range without any pain to my hand but my money tree isn’t in bloom right now and I wanted to have some of my expensive self defense ammo left to carry which I feel at this point ... I DO feel comfortable CC’ing it for self defense :cool: but once I’m able to pick my next money-trees crop I’ll run some more ammo down range to get better acquainted with its useless sight picture. Now all I need is a nice IWB holster or what do you think of those attachable clips instead for IWB carry?? I can carry it in several pairs of my shorts in my pocket too but when I have to wear most of my pants I’ll need to do it IWB.

PS> I’m happy with the LCP … and it might be considered by some to be ONLY A .380acp BULLET to shoot a pestering furry-footed BG with but yeah … I wouldn’t want to take two or three of those to the chest!! And when I can dress appropriately and can accommodate it, I’ll have my G30 for personal protection but that’s for another thread posting.

PSS> A bit off subject BUT... You may not believe this but while I was at the range they had a new Ruger Superhawk Alaskan 2.5” .454casull for sale :eek: what a sweet piece of work!! I put the darn thing in my shorts pocket and the guy behind the counter was as shocked as I was that it was very invisible!!!! Wish I had $975.00 because that is one for Ripely’s Believe It … Or Not !!! I kid you not I’m going to go back there to take a picture to prove it to you cuz I didn’t believe it myself. Now that’s one bodacious pocket-rocket EH !!!!
 
RinkRat,

Good to hear that you like your LCP too. I also have a Ruger Alaskan 454. Talk about going from one extreme to the other. The Alaskan is built well and is a lot of fun to shoot. I handload, otherwise I'd be broke shooting it. Using 454 brass, I can load from 45 Colt level to 454 Casull level. Makes it very versatile.
 
One bit of advise-Clean,clean,clean.I know you know this already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1pcLtfAQA4
I fire 95 gr. Remington Express JHP for my S/D
rounds and re-load my own practice loads 95. gr. RN to the top on the
powder scale.I only fire about 20 rounds per session at the range.
I look at this gun as a S/D gun.Not a range gun.B/H
 
Not to drift off subject < again > BUTT :neener:

DC ~ ..Yes the Alaskan 454casull is a piece of artistic achievement!!! Like I said I wish I had the $$$.$$ to get it! It was soooooooo nice and I'll bet it kicks like a mule on steroids too, but if you can tame it and hit what ever you are shooting at with at least one round and it don't go down you better run away FAST!!! :what:

Bayhawk2 ~~ ... you are absolutely correct!!! As with any semi-auto pistol cleanliness is next to GODLINESS if you want it to be reliable ... too be sure!!

Found some Remington FMJ-FN rounds at Bass Pro while getting some gun grease ... 50 rounds for $18 ... bought 2 boxes so I'll be staggering them with the Winchester T-Series and if I come across anymore 380acp T-Series at the next gun show I'll get all I can afford. I was told that $35. for a box of 50 was a very good buy. You can keep all the other SD stuff, because from what I've heard I'll stick with T-Series. They are suppose to be very damaging to what ever BG you hit with them within about 20 ft out of the barrel of an LCP.

As for the LCP being a range gun ... I didn't seem to mind putting over 100 rounds down range. I just got it and can keep a semi tight group inside a 6 inch plate at 15+ ft so far after only one time out and shooting only just over 100 rounds, so after a few more visits and if I do get a Crimson laser I should be better soon ... EH :cool:
 
I am a big believer in grease on slide rails for "mouse guns". I have watched Kel-Tecs and my own LCP (during the first 50 rds) have failures with Break-Free LP on the rails......added a little white lithium grease and problems gone.
YMMV
 
So all your failures have been with low-end / seconds ammo? Remington UMC and Winchester White Box are either leftovers from production runs or rejected batches of other ammo. They're a real mixup, and there's no real telling what you're shooting. Try a specific product label of ammo, not seconds.
 
A shooter next to me at the range last week had an LCP. He was trying out some Tulammo since the price was so good. It failed to feed almost every round. He said his was reliable with everything else he tried. I guess you can add Tula to the list for this gun as well.
 
I just had to have new brakes put on my car... I thought they came with brakes...
Same scenario with guns... especially "new" pistols. Put it in a box and send it back to Ruger and they will fix your problem. If it's broke, they'll fix it. If it's not, they'll send it back to you.

We mail out guns from all manufacturers all the time (yes, even Glocks) and the manufacturers fix them and make them work. Starting some half-a$$ed gunsmithing on them only makes things worse, and will probably end up causing you to get a bill along with the fix.

It's really simple... call the manufacturer and get a return authorization (some of them will send you a shipping label and pay the shipping), box the gun up and send it back to the manufacturer, and then wait for them to fix it. Problem solved...

It ain't rocket science, and it doesn't require you to be a gunsmith... you just have to know how to put a gun in a box and ship it off.

WT
 
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