bill bryant
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Forget the money issue. LCP now or Kahr P380 this summer? Why?
LCP now or Kahr P380 this summer
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Lou22
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From what I've read so far I believe the LCP is a quality firearm. If you want a tiny gun chambered in .380, buy it. I own 2 Kel-Tec P3ATs and have been happy with them, but believe the LCP is more reliable. I agree with the other posters, if you want to spend more for a Kahr, get a PM9. My PM9 fits most pockets and has been very easy to shoot for such a small gun, and you get the increased power of the 9mm.
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MCgunner
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I don't wanna spend Kahr prices on a 9, much less a .380. I'd get the Ruger now. I have 7 Rugers, been thinkin' of making a .380 my eighth, myself. 
for_hire
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Shot the LCP the other day..loved it!
I have mine ordered and im on a waiting list at this time but i cant wait to get it...
just my thinking LCP seems to be quality and it shoots great too..
Im getting the LCP
I have mine ordered and im on a waiting list at this time but i cant wait to get it...
just my thinking LCP seems to be quality and it shoots great too..
Im getting the LCP
BikerRN
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I don't understand why people select a .380 when a 9mm can be had that is almost the same size?
I myself would go with a Kahr PM9 if I had to have a small 9mm. In fact I already own one, but I prefer the J-Frame Revolver for a "small gun".
BikerRN
I myself would go with a Kahr PM9 if I had to have a small 9mm. In fact I already own one, but I prefer the J-Frame Revolver for a "small gun".
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Kahr
My friend has a lcp and says it is super, much more reliable and much more quality than the kt 380 is. he loves it. I have two on order. One for my son and one for me UNTIL my kahr 380 gets in. His ruger as ouf yesterday had 2500 flawless-perfect rounds through it. Kinda hard to dispute that Ruger does not have a winner here.
I have the PM9 and can say it can damn near go anywhere my 380 kt (that I once owned) could go. I love it, much more firepower than the 380 ever dreamed of to, BUT I love that little kahr P380 to, and the price although not cheap is just eaking in quality. We should by now realize that size has nothing to do with guns as far as price goes. Rohrbaugh or Seacamps for example, both $1000 guns and small small. The Ruger lcp is going to eat Kt up in the 380 sales and the Kahr was certainly not designed to compete head on with the Ruger or Kt, Hell, MSRP of the Ruger and Kt, and Kahrs, The Kahr is double. My PM9 was not cheap either, and neither is one's life. I trust my PM9 completely and I would trust the Ruger LCP. Owned 3 kt's, could not trust any one of them. I will pay the difference and own a kahr when it comes out. I like everything about it.Sure it has features that some naysayers will say, hell you don't need that in a defense pocket gun. BUT THEY ARE THERE AND I LIKE UM. Stainless slide over blued or hard chromed slide, all 3 very good but one is better. Polygonal rifled bbl. certainly not needed either but Polygonal barrel although not any more accurate are good for an increase in velocity and hopefully we can all admit that any more speed out of a 380 is a darn nice thing to. Slide lock, over none on the kt's or just a manual slide lock on the Ruger lcp is certainly a nice feature, considering Kahrs has always recommened using the slide lock release to chamber that first round. Kahrs has a better trigger system than both Ruger and Kt (which are the same). they are good, Kahrs is just better. Dovetail sites on the kahr over builit in sites on the Ruger and Kt,. not needed, maybe not but you will be able to install nite sites on the little kahrs where you cannot on the other two, and you can fine tune it to ur shooting style. Looks: Well the Kahr IMO is one beautifuol looking little pocket gun and to me anyhow is worthy of their price, whicih my dealer has quoted will come to me at around $525. I can live with that.. My bet is that a year from now or maybe even sooner, we will see a Kahr cw380 which will not have some of the bells and whistles the Kahr P380 has and will then be maybe within a $100 of the Ruger and Kt, and THEN, LET THE GAMES BEGIN
My friend has a lcp and says it is super, much more reliable and much more quality than the kt 380 is. he loves it. I have two on order. One for my son and one for me UNTIL my kahr 380 gets in. His ruger as ouf yesterday had 2500 flawless-perfect rounds through it. Kinda hard to dispute that Ruger does not have a winner here.
I have the PM9 and can say it can damn near go anywhere my 380 kt (that I once owned) could go. I love it, much more firepower than the 380 ever dreamed of to, BUT I love that little kahr P380 to, and the price although not cheap is just eaking in quality. We should by now realize that size has nothing to do with guns as far as price goes. Rohrbaugh or Seacamps for example, both $1000 guns and small small. The Ruger lcp is going to eat Kt up in the 380 sales and the Kahr was certainly not designed to compete head on with the Ruger or Kt, Hell, MSRP of the Ruger and Kt, and Kahrs, The Kahr is double. My PM9 was not cheap either, and neither is one's life. I trust my PM9 completely and I would trust the Ruger LCP. Owned 3 kt's, could not trust any one of them. I will pay the difference and own a kahr when it comes out. I like everything about it.Sure it has features that some naysayers will say, hell you don't need that in a defense pocket gun. BUT THEY ARE THERE AND I LIKE UM. Stainless slide over blued or hard chromed slide, all 3 very good but one is better. Polygonal rifled bbl. certainly not needed either but Polygonal barrel although not any more accurate are good for an increase in velocity and hopefully we can all admit that any more speed out of a 380 is a darn nice thing to. Slide lock, over none on the kt's or just a manual slide lock on the Ruger lcp is certainly a nice feature, considering Kahrs has always recommened using the slide lock release to chamber that first round. Kahrs has a better trigger system than both Ruger and Kt (which are the same). they are good, Kahrs is just better. Dovetail sites on the kahr over builit in sites on the Ruger and Kt,. not needed, maybe not but you will be able to install nite sites on the little kahrs where you cannot on the other two, and you can fine tune it to ur shooting style. Looks: Well the Kahr IMO is one beautifuol looking little pocket gun and to me anyhow is worthy of their price, whicih my dealer has quoted will come to me at around $525. I can live with that.. My bet is that a year from now or maybe even sooner, we will see a Kahr cw380 which will not have some of the bells and whistles the Kahr P380 has and will then be maybe within a $100 of the Ruger and Kt, and THEN, LET THE GAMES BEGIN
Glockorama
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LCP.
romma
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Key word here is almost.
I'd like to know a little more about both, before I make a decision.
The LCP hasn't been out long enough to flatly say it's reliable and the P380 isn't even out yet!
As far as the P380 being almost the same size as the PM9, that's incorrect!
The P380 is significantly smaller than the PM9.
The LCP hasn't been out long enough to flatly say it's reliable and the P380 isn't even out yet!
As far as the P380 being almost the same size as the PM9, that's incorrect!
The P380 is significantly smaller than the PM9.
Perspective
THE p380 IS EVEN SMALLER THAN THAN THE RUGER LCP AND KT 380. NOT BY MUCH BUT SMALLER STILL. SO INDEEDIT IS A VERY CONCEALABLE HANDGUN.. mY BET IS THAT THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF LCP'S OUT THERE BY NOW, WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD MUCH FEEDBACK FROM THE OWNERS..
THE p380 IS EVEN SMALLER THAN THAN THE RUGER LCP AND KT 380. NOT BY MUCH BUT SMALLER STILL. SO INDEEDIT IS A VERY CONCEALABLE HANDGUN.. mY BET IS THAT THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF LCP'S OUT THERE BY NOW, WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD MUCH FEEDBACK FROM THE OWNERS..
eric.cartman
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My wife carries P32. I just bought PM9.
What my wife doesn't know is that P380 is her next gun
What my wife doesn't know is that P380 is her next gun
KONY
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Given that most people go to forums to complain about bad pistols, I'll take "no news is goods news" view of the LCP.
I'll take a ruger LCP over a Kahr .380. Price is a deciding factor. I currently own and carry a Kahr PM9 and a Kel-tec P32. Both are reliable and very concealable. I bought the KT-P32 before the 380 was released and I'm regretting it. The ammo for the 32ACP is more $$ than 9mm ammo. I will probably sell the P32 and pick up a LCP in the near future. But I'm not paying almost double for a Kahr 380.
buddah
Good points, IMO you have the best ccw handgun with the PM9. I own one and it is my 24/7 ccw . probably no great reason to really own a kahr P380,but I just love my PM9 so much, I need its twin brother. have two ruger lcp's on order and no doubt they will suffice to. great guns. owned kt's 3 of them but peddled them all, just not reliable for me. I will pay the price for the kahr P380.I think they are worth it. I really don't compare the lcp to the kahr so therefore I don't try to equate the price difference of the two as one being a rip off and the other a bargain. both serve their price range excellent.
Good points, IMO you have the best ccw handgun with the PM9. I own one and it is my 24/7 ccw . probably no great reason to really own a kahr P380,but I just love my PM9 so much, I need its twin brother. have two ruger lcp's on order and no doubt they will suffice to. great guns. owned kt's 3 of them but peddled them all, just not reliable for me. I will pay the price for the kahr P380.I think they are worth it. I really don't compare the lcp to the kahr so therefore I don't try to equate the price difference of the two as one being a rip off and the other a bargain. both serve their price range excellent.
psyprofessor
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Ruger LCP vs. kahr P380
ok...it's been a while since the last post regarding this question:
Ruger LCP vs. Kahr P380...
1. Any reported problems with P380? Any good reports?
2. Any side by side pictures of the two for comparison?
ok...it's been a while since the last post regarding this question:
Ruger LCP vs. Kahr P380...
1. Any reported problems with P380? Any good reports?
2. Any side by side pictures of the two for comparison?
Just One Shot
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I don't know about the Kahr but I picked up an LCP for $319.00 and it's been great.
I have a 9mm and a .40 but there are times that both are too big to CC depending on where I'm going and how I'm dressed.
During those times I can drop my LCP in my pocket holster and go. I also have an ankle holster for those time I use it as a backup for my larger CCW's.
If you want one then by all means get one. Don't worry about all the naysayers who tell you to get a 9mm because they have their own naysayers that tell them they should get a .40 who have naysayers that tell them they should get a .45 and so on.
Contrary to what some people believe, there isn't an all around CCW that is perfect for all of life's situations.
Without a doubt some one will jump on here and say that they carry their 1911 .45 everywhere they go and while that may be true, I have to wonder where they go and what they do.
Would I prefer to carry the largest caliber on every occasion? Sure I would but that's not practical in my world.
I have a 9mm and a .40 but there are times that both are too big to CC depending on where I'm going and how I'm dressed.
During those times I can drop my LCP in my pocket holster and go. I also have an ankle holster for those time I use it as a backup for my larger CCW's.
If you want one then by all means get one. Don't worry about all the naysayers who tell you to get a 9mm because they have their own naysayers that tell them they should get a .40 who have naysayers that tell them they should get a .45 and so on.
Contrary to what some people believe, there isn't an all around CCW that is perfect for all of life's situations.
Without a doubt some one will jump on here and say that they carry their 1911 .45 everywhere they go and while that may be true, I have to wonder where they go and what they do.
Would I prefer to carry the largest caliber on every occasion? Sure I would but that's not practical in my world.
benderx4
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When speaking about the guns mentioned, I'm going to assume you'd like to pocket carry rather than IWB. If this is the case, EVERY tenth of an inch, every ounce, makes a big difference.
Having said that, the Seecamp LWS380 is still the king when it comes to the 380acp. Yes, it is BIG bucks but worth every dime if you order it at MSRP. (While you wait, buy a lightly used KelTec to stick in your pocket and then sell that once your Seecamp comes in.)
If you absolutely, positively have to pocket carry a 9mm, the Rohrbaugh R9 is king (followed closely by the Kahr PM9). I tried to POCKET carry both of these guns and couldn't - consequently I'm back to, and very happy with my Seecamp.
Again, I'm not saying the LCP, Kahr 380, or the Sig 238 aren't great guns - they are just bigger. And bigger does not translate well into pocket carry. (BTW, for IWB, I carry the HK P7 where thin is king!)
Check out this website for a great comparison:
http://mouseguns.com/PocketAutoComparison.pdf
Having said that, the Seecamp LWS380 is still the king when it comes to the 380acp. Yes, it is BIG bucks but worth every dime if you order it at MSRP. (While you wait, buy a lightly used KelTec to stick in your pocket and then sell that once your Seecamp comes in.)
If you absolutely, positively have to pocket carry a 9mm, the Rohrbaugh R9 is king (followed closely by the Kahr PM9). I tried to POCKET carry both of these guns and couldn't - consequently I'm back to, and very happy with my Seecamp.
Again, I'm not saying the LCP, Kahr 380, or the Sig 238 aren't great guns - they are just bigger. And bigger does not translate well into pocket carry. (BTW, for IWB, I carry the HK P7 where thin is king!)
Check out this website for a great comparison:
http://mouseguns.com/PocketAutoComparison.pdf
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