Phillip Allen
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I believe it...seen em
lead balls in inlines?
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DaveP (UK)
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No one at my club bothers with smooth bore. Some have in the past. When I've enquired they just make jokes about the club not being able to afford big enough target holders. What sort of grouping should a smooth bore long gun deliver at, say, 100yds?
I guess used sabots are no worse than shotcups, wads etc. - I just have visions of turning up on maintenance day to be told "You're the worst offender, here's your rake..."!
Phillip I have actually read Mr Shumways book. Incredibly my local library used to have a copy.About 18 months ago I took it out for the second time, and returned it. A month later I wanted to check something. It had disappeared from the shelf and from the catalogue. Political correctness strikes again.
It is available for purchase over here though
I guess used sabots are no worse than shotcups, wads etc. - I just have visions of turning up on maintenance day to be told "You're the worst offender, here's your rake..."!
Phillip I have actually read Mr Shumways book. Incredibly my local library used to have a copy.About 18 months ago I took it out for the second time, and returned it. A month later I wanted to check something. It had disappeared from the shelf and from the catalogue. Political correctness strikes again.
It is available for purchase over here though
Phillip Allen
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taken away from the public's view...incredible!
(bet you could get one from Track of the Wolf...)
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(raat3nr1dka1ux45ynj3hoen))/index.aspx
(bet you could get one from Track of the Wolf...)
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(raat3nr1dka1ux45ynj3hoen))/index.aspx
sundance44s
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100 yrd pie plate
We have a steel pie plate hung at 100 yards and this fellow that is good with his smooth bore hits it pretty regulary ...
we have regular smooth bore shoots during our Rendevous ...I`m tempted to buy a smooth bore drop in barrel for my Thompson Hawken ...just to try it .\After all it is a large part of our history ...Interesting story on how the rifleing came to be .... it was invented to releive the fouleing in a smooth bore , so they wouldn`t get so hard to load and dangerous .... and there you have it the invention of rifleing as a means to control the flight of the projectials by accident . Didn`t take them long to notice the difference it made eaither..
We have a steel pie plate hung at 100 yards and this fellow that is good with his smooth bore hits it pretty regulary ...
we have regular smooth bore shoots during our Rendevous ...I`m tempted to buy a smooth bore drop in barrel for my Thompson Hawken ...just to try it .\After all it is a large part of our history ...Interesting story on how the rifleing came to be .... it was invented to releive the fouleing in a smooth bore , so they wouldn`t get so hard to load and dangerous .... and there you have it the invention of rifleing as a means to control the flight of the projectials by accident . Didn`t take them long to notice the difference it made eaither..
arcticap
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I thought that rifling developed because of the "science" and experience that arrow makers had learned about the flight patterns of arrows and how this was affected by the feather positions on the shaft. So rifling applied similar dynamics to ball trajectory.
Some of the earliest rifling was fast twist too, only the balls didn't shoot consistently well, and it took more "eons" before conical bullet development could catch up to the existing barrel technology.
Most open choke smoothbores shoot like rifles out to 50 -60 yards, but then anything can happen to the trajectory depending on all of the variables. I have one modified choke .28 bore shottie that shoots great out to 25 or 30 yards, but at 50 yards I'm lucky to hit a large 100 yard target. But that's the nature of having a choked smoothbore, it's usually made to either shoot shot or patched balls well. But it's still a blast to knock down bowling pins with it, I just have to shoot it at moderate range if I want it to be as accurate as a rifle. Using ~.020 looser balls, thicker (.018) patches and moderate powder charges, there's really no need to swab either. But the really accurate long range smoothbore loads are required to be so tight that swabbing between most shots really does become necessary.
Some of the earliest rifling was fast twist too, only the balls didn't shoot consistently well, and it took more "eons" before conical bullet development could catch up to the existing barrel technology.
Most open choke smoothbores shoot like rifles out to 50 -60 yards, but then anything can happen to the trajectory depending on all of the variables. I have one modified choke .28 bore shottie that shoots great out to 25 or 30 yards, but at 50 yards I'm lucky to hit a large 100 yard target. But that's the nature of having a choked smoothbore, it's usually made to either shoot shot or patched balls well. But it's still a blast to knock down bowling pins with it, I just have to shoot it at moderate range if I want it to be as accurate as a rifle. Using ~.020 looser balls, thicker (.018) patches and moderate powder charges, there's really no need to swab either. But the really accurate long range smoothbore loads are required to be so tight that swabbing between most shots really does become necessary.
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Rex B
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cheap inline
I have 4 or 5 (6?) traditional reproduction percussion guns, most of which I built from kits or started with kits. Last year I decided I want to look at an inline. CVA has a refurb page on their website, where you can buy a modern inline rifle for as little as $70 plus $10 shipping. It also says they will include a starter kit "..wth any rifle on this page" but they refused to honor it with my purchase.
Nevertheless, it's a pretty nice little (cheap) gun for $80.
I am embarrassed to say that I haven't shot it yet. It says to only shoot PowerBelt ammo and powder pellets, and I haven't wanted to spend the money, having become used to cheap shooting with balls and patches. Now that I've read the above posts I think I'll try it - thanks!
I have 4 or 5 (6?) traditional reproduction percussion guns, most of which I built from kits or started with kits. Last year I decided I want to look at an inline. CVA has a refurb page on their website, where you can buy a modern inline rifle for as little as $70 plus $10 shipping. It also says they will include a starter kit "..wth any rifle on this page" but they refused to honor it with my purchase.
Nevertheless, it's a pretty nice little (cheap) gun for $80.
I am embarrassed to say that I haven't shot it yet. It says to only shoot PowerBelt ammo and powder pellets, and I haven't wanted to spend the money, having become used to cheap shooting with balls and patches. Now that I've read the above posts I think I'll try it - thanks!
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