schmeky
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Who runs a button rifled, lead compatible barrel in their Glock and how well do they shoot? I'm thinking about a Lone Wolf for my G17.
I shoot hard cast bullets 98% of the time.
I shoot hard cast bullets 98% of the time.
Lead Barreled Glocks: How Well Do They Shoot?
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krs
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I've got a Storm Lake for my G19 for that purpose. It runs fine, and so do the Lone Wolf versions.
I'm not 100% convinced that there's any need to worry about it in 9mm, but I have the barrel so what do I know?
I'm not 100% convinced that there's any need to worry about it in 9mm, but I have the barrel so what do I know?
Around 10 years ago I bought a new G21 and immediately ordered a BarSto barrel for it (actually sent the slide to them to have the barrel fitted to the slide). That was my primary gun for the next 6-7 years and I put well over 20,000 rounds through it, the majority of which were my cast bullet handloads (counted the sleeves of primers I went through).
It functioned flawlessly and still does. Qualified with it last December for my LEOSA permit.
Dave
It functioned flawlessly and still does. Qualified with it last December for my LEOSA permit.
Dave
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I don't own a glock, but I have a brother, cousin, and friend who all love their glocks. Two glock 19's and a glock 21. All 3 of them shoot lead; mostly reloads; in their original barrels. Totally forgetting the "So called Manufacturer's Suggestion", neither they nor anyone else could ever come up with a "LEGITIMATE" reason to not shoot lead through it. Especially with all the other guns out there with polygonal barrels. So, what makes Glock different? Of course, there are those that say that they trust the "Professionals". Well, Jiffy Lube and Grease Monkey tell you that you should have an oil change every 3000 miles; and just about anyone with any common sense knows that is a crock; and only done to get you to spend more money. While I don't have a glock, I've shot plenty of lead in an HK and a CZ pistol which both have a polygonal barrel. I understand that lead is soft and more easier to line the barrel of a polygonal than the rifling of a standard. But the whole theory that the lead can build up and physically reduce the diameter of the barrel; thus creating higher pressure for the following bullets; and thus creating a dangerous situation, is totally illogical.
Based on the laws of basic physics, this just doesn't seem possible. Any lead residue on the barrel can NOT be of a larger diameter than the bullet that when down the barrel and left the residue. It's just not physically possible. At most, the residue could create a barrel inside diameter that was EXACTLY the same as the bullet. Also, the physics noted by the density of the actual bullet coming down the barrel, will be much denser than any micron sized film of lead on the barrel. As such, the more dense bullet would eat through the less dense film on the barrel.
I guess if a gun, such as the glock, went through thousands of rounds of lead without any cleaning of the barrel, that over time, it could develop a significant lead coating on the barrel. I still can't see physically that it will happen, but I guess it's possible. I would just like to hear of some "Official" reports of a glock or other polygonal barrel malfunctioning because of a lead foul up that created to high of pressure for the next round coming down. No barrel is perfect. No mechanical gun is perfectly spec'd. Neither are the bullets in the ammo being shot. As such, there is a certain amount of place between bullet and barrel. Maybe no visible, but there will be gaps between the bullet and certain spots on the barrel. Leading can indeed fill in some of these gaps; and in theory increase pressure (ever so slightly); but I don't believe that it can be significant enough to damage the barrel. But if I can find an "Official" report of a gun that had such a fault, I'd be interested in seeing it. Until then, I will continue shooting lead in my CZ, HK, and my friends will probably continue in their glocks. And no; I DON'T clean my barrel(s) on any regular basis. I will clean the guns in general to remove physical dirt, sand, etc... that can affect the mechanism of the weapon. But I only clean and scrub the barrels of pistols, revolvers, and rifles; 1-2 times a year. Basically after about 5-6 times of shooting them. Basically, I totally clean my guns (Barrels) on a schedule. I clean the entire gun; barrel and all; March and September. After winter storage and before hunting season or winter storage. The rest of the time when I'm shooting, I simply blow out sand, dirt, lint, etc..., and I oil the mechanical parts. Been doing it this way for more than 30 years. Never a problem. Never jams or misfires. Never concern whatsoever.
Based on the laws of basic physics, this just doesn't seem possible. Any lead residue on the barrel can NOT be of a larger diameter than the bullet that when down the barrel and left the residue. It's just not physically possible. At most, the residue could create a barrel inside diameter that was EXACTLY the same as the bullet. Also, the physics noted by the density of the actual bullet coming down the barrel, will be much denser than any micron sized film of lead on the barrel. As such, the more dense bullet would eat through the less dense film on the barrel.
I guess if a gun, such as the glock, went through thousands of rounds of lead without any cleaning of the barrel, that over time, it could develop a significant lead coating on the barrel. I still can't see physically that it will happen, but I guess it's possible. I would just like to hear of some "Official" reports of a glock or other polygonal barrel malfunctioning because of a lead foul up that created to high of pressure for the next round coming down. No barrel is perfect. No mechanical gun is perfectly spec'd. Neither are the bullets in the ammo being shot. As such, there is a certain amount of place between bullet and barrel. Maybe no visible, but there will be gaps between the bullet and certain spots on the barrel. Leading can indeed fill in some of these gaps; and in theory increase pressure (ever so slightly); but I don't believe that it can be significant enough to damage the barrel. But if I can find an "Official" report of a gun that had such a fault, I'd be interested in seeing it. Until then, I will continue shooting lead in my CZ, HK, and my friends will probably continue in their glocks. And no; I DON'T clean my barrel(s) on any regular basis. I will clean the guns in general to remove physical dirt, sand, etc... that can affect the mechanism of the weapon. But I only clean and scrub the barrels of pistols, revolvers, and rifles; 1-2 times a year. Basically after about 5-6 times of shooting them. Basically, I totally clean my guns (Barrels) on a schedule. I clean the entire gun; barrel and all; March and September. After winter storage and before hunting season or winter storage. The rest of the time when I'm shooting, I simply blow out sand, dirt, lint, etc..., and I oil the mechanical parts. Been doing it this way for more than 30 years. Never a problem. Never jams or misfires. Never concern whatsoever.
greyling22
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I bought one off gunbroker for 35 bucks. (lone wolf) it dropped right in, shoot better than I do (not saying much there though) and gives me some piece of mind. I know people who don't bother to change to a lead barrel and they're been fine too. they do celan teh barrel every couple hundred rounds though.
Polygonal???
I don't get it. I have a 3rd gen G-19 about a year old. It has conventional land and groove. I also have a CZ 82 it is def. polygonal, but my G-19 is conventional. I bought it NIB.
Had a squib recently when I got the bullet out of the bore it was land and groove engraved.
Are the 3rd gens conventional? Mine sure is.
I don't get it. I have a 3rd gen G-19 about a year old. It has conventional land and groove. I also have a CZ 82 it is def. polygonal, but my G-19 is conventional. I bought it NIB.
Had a squib recently when I got the bullet out of the bore it was land and groove engraved.
Are the 3rd gens conventional? Mine sure is.
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