Leaning to HKP7, CC

[HKGuns]

One of my favorites as well. As stated above, they are excellent, although on the heavy side for EDC, but not as heavy as a 1911......

Extremely accurate and reliable if kept clean. The gas channel can get fouled if you let it go for too long between cleanings (not really an issue for most). I shot my M8 in IDPA and it is by FAR the fastest pistol to get from holster into action.

I own two, they will never be sold and would buy another if the opportunity arises.

 

[Deputy25]

I have two P7 PSP pistols with the heel magazine release. They are both Lower Saxony surplus pistols with the "nds" stamp on the slide. They are both incredibly accurate and quick to get into action. I generally carry a Glock, but may start carrying one of my P7s, as I shoot them better and faster then any other handgun I own.

 

[Jenrick]

If you want a hammer down 1911, Para's LDA. If you want one that is truely DA (eg not pre-cocked) they don't make them, by definition it's not a 1911.

The P7 in all it's varities is a great pistol. Check out:

http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=6&page=1

for a ton of info on them.

-Jenrick

 

[gc70]

They aren't fragile, but they'll eventually break--especially the extractors--like any other gun.

Extractor breakage is probably not a big worry since a P7 will run without one.

 

[Nakanokalronin]

I would try to handle a P7 before you purchase one. If you like a nice high hold on your handguns, you may get sliced by the slide on a P7. I was thinking about getting a P7 just to have one. My LGS had one in stock and when I held it in my hand, there was no doubt that I would get sliced. Its a nice gun but kinda heavy for a single stack 9mm. The squeeze cocker is a little awkward but people seem to like it. Too odd for me but that's why we have options out there.

 

[Loosedhorse]

Extractor breakage is probably not a big worry since a P7 will run without one.

So I am told!

I see the smiley, but I would point out there's a difference between being able to continue a gunfight if the extractor breaks (which I appreciate--try that with a 1911!)...

Versus planning on starting a gunfight with an already broken extractor.

 

[rcmodel]

Plan on spending some decent money on a real good CCW holster designed for the gun.

They are top heavy in a holster, with not much slide inside for support.

rc

 

[Big Dave]

I prefer the P7 to the P7M8 for carry. It's a little slimmer. Sounds like the P7 that xr1200 tried wasn't working properly. Squeezing the cocker should always activate the striker.

 

[BruiseLee]

I've had a P7-M8 since they first came into the country. I used to carry it as my duty weapon.

As others have said, it is a very accurate weapon. It has a fixed barrel, it's made in West Germany, and it's an expensive gun, so it had better be.

It's pretty compact, but because it's all steel, it's also pretty heavy. The 3 dot sights are nice, though they dont glow in the dark. Of course, there is no accessory rail.

Magazine ejection is top notch. Trigger pull is always consistent, unlike my Sig P229 or Beretta 92. A very safe gun, ahead of it's time. The only real bad points are cost, low capacity (unless you go for a P7-M13, which I find to be too big and clunky), and an unusual manual of arms. Which could actually be a good thing if someone ever get a hold of your weapon and tries to use it against you. But, to me it's operation is totally logical and intuitive. I bet my life on it. Hell, Seal Team 6's Richard Marcinko used one, at least in his novels (which he will neither confirm nor deny are true, lol). If it's good enough for a SEAL team leader, it's good enough for me.

 

[dcarch]

They look like excellent guns. I saw a P7M8 at a gun show in Cedar Rapids for $1000, and in handling/dryfiring the gun, I was truly impressed. Everything I've heard about them seems really positive, but I will be the first person to admit that I'm not truly qualified to offer suggestions here, since I've never had the opportunity to shoot one. Take this as you will, but the only thing I would truly worry about, were I in your position, would be a potential lack of spare parts or customer service.

 

[Pilot]

remodel wrote:

Plan on spending some decent money on a real good CCW holster designed for the gun.

They are top heavy in a holster, with not much slide inside for support.

Really?


I carry my P7 PSP in an Uncle Mike's nylon holster designed for a small auto. Works great. I think it was around $15.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Really?

I carry my P7 PSP in an Uncle Mike's nylon holster designed for a small auto. Works great. I think it was around $15.

Are you not concerned that the location of the safety/retention strap would be under your master grip?

Wouldn't that mean that you'd have to (1) slow down your attaining a initial grip to disengage the thumb break and push the strap aside or (2) take a loose grip to allow the strap to slide out from under it and then re-grip the gun once you have cleared the holster? Neither technique seems optimal, or especially safety, for a rapid presentation from the holster...resulting in a slow presentation or an incorrect shooting grip