Leather work. First try.

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First attempt at leather work of any type. pancake style sheath for Kabar becker necker.
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Soaked in hot water for a few minutes, and shaped it over an hour or so. But never got really firm. Trying near boiling water for a couple of minutes than letting it dry a few days. Still not leather hard. What is a good way to get leather harder?

And also what is the best way to punch the holes and lace this stuff. I used a heated nail.... made nice holes but took forever.
 
Im not sure how to stiffin up the leather but it sure is a nice looking sheath, good work
 
I know precisely zero about leatherwork other than having a general idea of how to use an awl and to sew. Let me ask this question to you leatherworkers: Is there any reason when you are setting up something like to sew you couldn't make the holes with a drill press? It seems like it would yield nice uniform holes quickly and efficiently, and a small drill press is a pretty affordable tool. I only ask because that isn't the first time I have seen that question, and I have always wondered...
 
My attempts at leather stitching started with an awl and moved to a hand held drill. For thread I used dental floss.
 
Use a leather stitching wheel to mark the points for stitching and a fine bit on a drill press.

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Don't soak the leather, and boiling water is absolutely out!!

Dampen the leather and then you can mold it with your fingers. Let it dry slowly in a warm but not hot place. If you hand-stitch follow hso's advise and you will get a professionally looking job.
 
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Your approach is fundamentally very sound. One is tempted to soak the leather but that is not the way to go. Is this vegtable tanned? That will firm back up, even if soaked. I formed a piece around a pistol that when dry, snapped back with a "clap" when pulled apart.

Vegtable tanned leather is the what you want. You can make nice things with latigo but it does not mold very well at all.

Did you enjoy it? If so, keep at it, you will be surprised how good you will get rather quickly. It is that last level of skill that takes a long time and I am still early in that journey.

QB
 
I ground a diamond profile punch which I chuck into my drillpress.... And punch thru the leather into some endgrain wood.... I layout my stitch holes with pen first....

Works for me...

J
 
Don't soak the leather, and boiling water is absolutely out!!

Dampen the leather and then you can mold it with your fingers. Let it dry slowly in a warm but not hot place. If you hand-stitch follow hso's advise and you will get a professionally looking job.
Never ever use a microwave. Don't ask me how I know. LOL I use a drill press and small drill bit to make my holes. I stitch with double stitch.
 
I use one of those star wheels (hso picture) to mark where the holes belong and then punch the holes with one of these -

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It goes pretty fast. With some leathers (or a dull tool) it may be necessary to give a twist at the end of the cut to get a nice crisp hole.
 
If punching or drilling those holes be very careful not to make them too big. It's best to punch the holes with an awl so the leather will close back up around the thread. If your going to use a drill press use a finish nail instead of a drill bit.
 
I too am currently a "punch guy". However, this is a real short coming. I space my stitches out to 1 centimeter so as not to remove too much material and create a perforation in the leather and thus a structural weakness. Even at 1 cm apart, I am creating a weakness, just less of one.

So the punch has its place but I plan on moving to a finer method where no leather is removed.

This is one reason why I decline the few request I've had to make things for people...I am just not there yet.
 
I got my a punch, and a hammer today. Going to see how it works out.

Still need to figure out how to make leather harder.
 
Still need to figure out how to make leather harder.

It depends on the kind of leather you are using, and how it is tanned. Some kinds of leather are supposed to stay soft. The weight (thickness) can make a difference too. Each oz. = 1/64" in thickness. You can also use a lacquer after-finsh that will make a holster as hard as a rock, but over time the leather will likely crack.
 
You can get vegetable tanned leather that is very hard. I have holsters and sheaths that, when "flicked" with the nail of the middle finger or tapped with the spine of a knife blade, "clap" like a thin piece of wood. Also key is what you are treating it with. Vegetable tanned leather is very water absorbant and needs to be finished with somethin. If you go with an oil finish, you either make the leather no harder or can soften it. If you use a beeswax finish, the leather hardens up. If you do the wax right, the hardness does not come with brittleness.
 
I got my a punch, and a hammer today. Going to see how it works out.

Still need to figure out how to make leather harder.
Copy and pasted from another site. This info is courtesy of Chuck Borrows, one of the masters of the trade, especially on period stuff and old methods of doing leather work.

How to "Harden" Leather
The following method of a hardening leather is not my invention. The basic method has been in continuous use for several thousand years. I have studied the subject extensively and the following method is based on what bonafide experts say. I have heard of some people dipping the leather in acetone instead of wetting it with water, but I don't like using that stuff unless absolutely necessary. NOTE: I have a liver disease (NASH-level 2) and the doctor's figure that at least in part it is from having breathed and absorbed so many toxic fumes over the years and no I was never a heavy boozer but I am now forced to be a teetotaller. So be careful with that stuff!

The process was known as cuir boulli (boiled leather) in the Middle Ages, but they NEVER actually boiled the leather. (I've tried it - it will totally ruin your leather - TOO HOT - the leather will shrivel up into a tight ball). The process is still used commercially to make cigar cases and such - it was never a "lost" art.

1) "Case" your leather to moldability. The outside aka smooth side of the leather must have no dye or finish on it at this point (if you're doing a pouch type sheath it's OK to finish the inside first and then sew it). To case my leather I thoroughly dampen the sheath or whatever, put it in a plastic bag, and leave it over night in the refrigerator. You want it damp not soaking. It is properly "cased" or "sammed" when the color is almost the same color as a dry piece, but it will feel "cool" to the touch and act like semi-stiff putty. This is the same state you bring it to when tooling it.
2) Mold and bone it to shape if this is desired, but don't let it get too dried out. You can remoisten it by wrapping in lightly dampened towel and putting it back in the plastic bag for a while.
3) Here is the process that makes leather hard - semi-rapid dehydration from the damp state. Dry your item between 120-160 deg F. I use a thermostatically controlled food dehydrator for this but you can also do it by making a 2-3' square wooden box and setting a hot plate in it or set it up with a couple of light sockets with 100 watt bulbs. Use an oven thermometer and make a little sliding door so you can control the heat. A small fan to move the air around inside the box will help. Suspend the leather so the hot air can move around all sides. You need to experiment with temperature and the wetness of your leather until you get the hang of it. The thickness of your leather determines a lot as well - thinner leather dries faster and can wrinkle or shrivel very easily. I'd recommend 5-7oz vegtan for small sheaths and 8/9 oz for larger ones.
KEEP AN EYE ON IT! Too hot and the leather will either shrivel up or turn out so hard that it will crack. Too low and it won't get hard enough (you can always re-wet and re-dry). I've found best success at around 130F for good stiffeness. You can also dip it into a pot of 160-180F water and then put it in your drying box. EXPERIMENT WITH SCRAP if you do this one. This will make it dry faster and harder. I don't find it necessary.
4) Leather dye will also stiffen leather to a degree as it dries it out chemically. If you're going to dye do it after the above process. I then use first a light coat or two of Lexol Conditioner and then a water resistant top coat of something like Fiebings Leather Balm or Tan Kote or even Watco Danish Oil. I don't recommend using the beeswax/oil bath as that amount of oil may actually soften it, but feel free to try. I have read of some fragmentary accounts of how they did use pure melted beeswax or a mixture of beeswax and pitch to waterproof it (Leather drinking Jacks and Bots were lined with brewer's pitch to make them watertight with cold liquids). With larger pieces such as breastplates they sometimes glued in fine woven linen or canvas linings.

I've made leather armour out of 10/11oz using this method that will turn a sharp sword stroke when properly padded underneath.

One caveat: this is always a touch and go process - every hide is different even in the same weights.
 
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