leaving a handgun in your vehicle

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And repeating yourself over and over doesn't make it true. There's a statement about that and something called insanity
 
One of my favorite unattended weapons stories goes back 25 years of so. FBI and BATF had raided someone and they came up with a boat load of NFA type items. When transporting them in a Ryder rental truck, they secured it with a Master padlock and went to sleep in their motel rooms. (I'll pause to let that sink in.) When they got up the next day, the door to the truck was open, and it was empty. The list of what they had seized made the news and it was everything we'd love a chance to play with, from M16s to explosive to grenades and then some. The agents in questioned were fired and prosecuted and it was a real circus. The quote from the US Attorney that everybody remembers is when he called it "a civil was starter kit."
 
George P said:
And repeating yourself over and over doesn't make it true. There's a statement about that and something called insanity
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are you implying that crime does Not happen everywhere you live, park, ect?
 
No, YOU are implying that only YOUR methodology is the only recourse and that everyone seems to live in your world of crime
 
357smallbore said:
How many people keep a handgun in their vehicle all the time? I am not talikg about running into the post office or court house and leave it and then come back. But that actually keep a carry gun stashed in their auto 365 days a year.
Any concerns of it being stolen?
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Please don't.

I kept a Gen III Glock 19 strapped in a Safariland OWB holster to the bracket of my seat. It was one of several guns stolen from me while I was in the process of moving a few years ago. It is such a sickening feeling when you have valuables stolen from you, especially guns. Knowing some meth head is out there with your guns is hard to live with. I still feel nauseous when I think about it. The police are going to be too busy harassing pot heads to do anything about it. Dispatch almost didn't even send an officer to respond in my case, only sending one bored, complacent waste of space to scribble in a notepad while I explained everything that was stolen from me. He never gave me a card, case number, or contact info. I still haven't heard anything back, and don't expect to. There is just no way to explain how crappy it feels even years later. One of the worst things to ever happen to me.

Please learn from my mistake and never leave valuables, gun included, in your vehicle. Your vehicle is a glass box, not a safe. Middle school skateboard punk. Tweakers. Angry ex. Literally anyone can get into your vehicle at any time. DON'T LEAVE FIREARMS IN YOUR VEHICLE! EVER!
 
MTMilitiaman said:
Please don't.

I kept a Gen III Glock 19 strapped in a Safariland OWB holster to the bracket of my seat. It was one of several guns stolen from me while I was in the process of moving a few years ago. It is such a sickening feeling when you have valuables stolen from you, especially guns. Knowing some meth head is out there with your guns is hard to live with. I still feel nauseous when I think about it. The police are going to be too busy harassing pot heads to do anything about it. Dispatch almost didn't even send an officer to respond in my case, only sending one bored, complacent waste of space to scribble in a notepad while I explained everything that was stolen from me. He never gave me a card, case number, or contact info. I still haven't heard anything back, and don't expect to. There is just no way to explain how crappy it feels even years later. One of the worst things to ever happen to me.

Please learn from my mistake and never leave valuables, gun included, in your vehicle. Your vehicle is a glass box, not a safe. Middle school skateboard punk. Tweakers. Angry ex. Literally anyone can get into your vehicle at any time. DON'T LEAVE FIREARMS IN YOUR VEHICLE! EVER!
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some people would say that is your opinion and not fact, and it depends upon where you live, park, ect.

I am not one of those people.
 
JERRY said:
some people would say that is your opinion and not fact, and it depends upon where you live, park, ect.

I am not one of those people.
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To those people, I would say:

I was living in a liberal arts college town in a quiet rural state and was in a decent neighborhood. I know half a dozen people from various places, none regarded as high crime neighborhoods, who have had their vehicles broken into. It can happen to anyone at any time.

On Sept 1991, an early man was found encased in ice on the Austrian/Italian border. He would be affectionately named Otzi, or simply referred to as the Iceman. Remarkably well preserved, scientists were able to determine that he was eating at the time he was killed--shot in the back by an arrow and clubbed over the head. Humans have always been opportunistic [expletive]. Also in 1991, my mom had a her Honda broken into and a pair of binoculars stolen, in Paradise, MT. A town of a couple hundred people where crime is almost unheard of.

Your vehicle is a glass box, not a safe. Anyone can get into it at any time. Fact, not opinion.
 
Seriously? Bringing up a caveman...............a blue city.......wow.......

Let's face some REAL world facts. Not every location suffers the same crime as other locations..........and IF you live where crime is a problem, then do not keep a gun in your vehicle. WOW, common sense........but please stop trying to push YOUR solution to a problem that not everyone suffers from.
 
FAS1 said:
Never for me.

Regarding the console vault type safes, my friend had his broken into and it was apparently done with a cordless Sawzall. It was in a Red Lobster parking lot at lunch on a Saturday. If you have one of these vaults you can probably realize what was cut and how quick that happened.

The will certainly help and at least buy some time for a typical smash and grab though.
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I'd like to see them get in to my console safe with a sawzall. That would be very entertaining.
 
Whatever, dude...................you make yourself that much more irrelevant as each post goes on
 
Trunk Monkey said:
Assuming of course that your vehicle is the very first vehicle they've ever broken into
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Wow...now you're an expert on auto burglary too? Let me guess- One night you worked as a security guard at a used car lot. You saw someone walking up and down the sidewalk in front of the lot, looking at the cars, obviously trying to decide which one to break into. That in turn, made you an expert on the subject. Something like that???



Reinz said:
I used to always leave a pistol in the truck. But then I learned that in TX you are liable if someone 17(?) or younger gets ahold of the gun. Not sure if I read that somewhere or was told in CC class.

About 5 years ago I invested in a Console Vault Now I have peace of mind leaving a plastic gun in there.

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Pics off the the Console Vault website.
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jar said:
You buy a lock box that can be bolted to the frame of your car, preferably in the trunk. Don't think the ones with cables offer any security, get ones with bolts that are not easy to reach to cut.
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The problem I see with vaults and lock boxes is if a burglar sees one, it's a dead giveaway that there's something of value in it. AND with the advent of cordless tools, especially compact cut off tools, a lockbox or vault is going to be compromised in no time. But if one carries always, as they should, they're going to be faced with leaving a handgun in an automobile. In a month or so I'll have to take a flight out of Dallas to DC. I will carry on the way, and will have no choice but to leave my handgun my vehicle until my return. Therefore this statement and others like it-

Jack B. said:
Never , I always carry.
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...are untrue. When you inevitably go some where carrying a handgun is not permitted, you either leave it at home, which means you're NOT carrying, or take it with you and leave it in the car.


These threads ALWAYS get off on endless, silly nail-biting "What if?" scenarios.

35W
 
If you have your gun in a vehicle gun safe like a console safe and you still feel that the gun may be stolen by sawzall, sledge hammers, or whatever, please do not keep your gun in your vehicle while in these areas. Either carry these guns while in these areas or leave them at home.
 
35 Whelen said:
Wow...now you're an expert on auto burglary too? Let me guess- One night you worked as a security guard at a used car lot. You saw someone walking up and down the sidewalk in front of the lot, looking at the cars, obviously trying to decide which one to break into. That in turn, made you an expert on the subject. Something like that???
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No but I do watch the Tweakers walk up and down the street and try the handles on every car door parked on the street every night. They do the same thing in the parking lots.

I also watch the news and I see the videos of people just trying car doors until they find one that's open and then they rifle it.
 
35 Whelen said:
In a month or so I'll have to take a flight out of Dallas to DC. I will carry on the way, and will have no choice but to leave my handgun my vehicle until my return.
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Or you could leave the gun at home and dare to be unarmed while you're driving to the airport and driving home. People do it every day
 
35 Whelen said:
No, stupid things like not being able to defend oneself.
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A gun is not an absolute requirement to self defense.

What are you going to do when you're in DC?

You couldn't have a close friend drop you off at the airport and then take your gun back home?

There are any number of better alternatives to leaving an unsecured gun in a car in long-term parking.
 
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We all know leaving a gun in a car is a bad idea, but some seem to rationalize it by citing safe neighborhoods, locking the car, hiding it, etc.

It's still a bad idea.

I have to say I almost laughed out loud when someone here said they were going to bring their gun to the airport and leave it in the car because it was safer to drive there with their gun. Then they were flying, unarmed, to DC, one of the major crime murder capitols of the country.
 
Some people need to go back and read the OPs ORIGINAL QUESTION
Rather than just randomly quoting other replies read the first post. here it is for those who just quote and post replies.

"How many people keep a handgun in their vehicle all the time? I am not talikg about running into the post office or court house and leave it and then come back. But that actually keep a carry gun stashed in their auto 365 days a year.
Any concerns of it being stolen?"
 
35 Whelen said:
No, stupid things like not being able to defend oneself.
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Not being able to defend ones self because someone saw the cable to a lock box sticking out from underneath your vehicle seat, bashed in your window with the trucks to their skateboard, and made off with your weapon?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/232575/property-crime-rate-in-the-us-by-state/
Most of the states with high property crimes are red states. Facts don't care about your feelings.

MT is ranked middle of the pack. And Paradise, MT is not a blue city, either. Your narrative is dissolving.

I'm sure you'll be able to defend yourself with the gun the tweaker stole out of your vehicle because you knew better than everyone else...
 
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