Lee Pacesetter vs Lee Deluxe Rifle Dies???

[jcerillo70]

Hey guys,

Between the 2 sets, what are the advantages or disadvantages between the 2?

Pacesetter includes-
Includes a full-length sizer die, a factory-crimp die, a bullet-seating and roll-crimp die, a shell holder, powder dipper, load data and storage box.

Deluxe includes-
Set includes a collet neck-sizing die, dead length bullet-seating die and a full-length sizing die, plus a shell holder, powder dipper, load data and storage box.

Thanks!

 

[Scimmia]

All depends on what you're going to use it for. If it's a bolt action rifle, neck sizing is useful and crimping not so much, so the Deluxe set is perfect. If it's an autoloader, the neck sizer is pretty useless, but a crimper can come in handy, so the Pacesetter set is perfect.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

All depends on what you're going to use it for. If it's a bolt action rifle, neck sizing is useful and crimping not so much, so the Deluxe set is perfect. If it's an autoloader, the neck sizer is pretty useless, but a crimper can come in handy, so the Pacesetter set is perfect.

That sounds like a good explanation.

 

[jcerillo70]

Very nice! it will be for a bolt action so it looks like im going DELUXE!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Any trimmer recommendations? This will be my first go at rifle reloading

 

[Micha2u]

Lee case trimmers are simple, inexpensive and they work great.

 

[rcmodel]

If you are new to reloading, get the Pacesetter set with the FL sizing die.

Lots of folks come here having problems with the Lee neck sizing dies, and it is a problem best avoided for a new reloader.

FL sizing works perfectly fine for 99% of any rifle reloading.

rc

 

[kingmt]

I really have to disagree with RC on this one.

The Deluxe comes with a FL die. To me the crimp die that the Pacesetter comes with is useless. Even in autos I don't have a use for it.

I use the NS die the most over a FL die. I FL all new to me brass & auto brass but for my bolts everything that has been fired through them gets NS. No lube is needed & I have about 30 fireings on them with no ware.

The Dead Seating die sets length off from the shell holder. Takes most of user error & press flex out of the equation.

 

[ole farmerbuck]

Kingmt......i agree and very well said. I neck size also. I found I can ns two times on my Kreiger AR's but only do it once.

 

[Scimmia]

If you are new to reloading, get the Pacesetter set with the FL sizing die.

Both sets come with a FL sizing die and a seater die, is your advice really to buy a FCD instead of a neck sizer for a bolt gun? That's the only difference between the two sets.

 

[rcmodel]

No, my advice was to get a FL die so you can reload usable ammo while trying to get the collet neck size die to work right.

I didn't realize both sets came with a FL die.

The FCD is not needed unless you want to crimp for an auto-loader or lever-action.

rc

 

[4895]

I would stick with RCBS dies. I know they cost a little more, but the quality just looks, feels, and performs better than LEE dies. The local Sportsman's Warehouse stocks most RCBS die sets for $29.99-32.99. Why buy a LEE kit for the same price anymore? A free shellholder? Ya gotta be kiddin'.

 

[tahoe2]

both types

I have autos, levers, and bolt guns and I use the appropriate dies for each action, variety is the spice of life !!
I use Lee dies for all my reloading, and accuracy and reliability are awesome.
I do have one set of Redding and one of RCBS dies that I picked up at a garage sale (never used em).

 

[kingmt]

I use Lee & RCBS. I really like the Lee better. I didn't know RCBS made a collet NS die or a Dead Length Seating die. I think I've seen a 2 die set for $30. Are you trying to say it is better to spend more to get less.