lemat carbiner

[snidervolley]

lemat carbine as close as possible to original

 

[DocRock]

Yours? That's ridiculously cool!

 

[sspierce8]

I didn’t know such a thing existed. That is hella cool. Where would a person acquire one of those if he happen to have the money?

 

[arcticap]

That's gorgeous! Who made it?

 

[magyars4]

Very cool. I have never seen or heard of such a beast.

 

[expat_alaska]

Ephraim Kibbey started a thread on May 21 on this forum about a Paterson Carbine sold by Rock Island Auction Company which sold for $300K (plus commission). .52 caliber smoothbore.

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/paterson-carbine-with-a-sling-bar.868909/

https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-M...th-Sling-Bar/lotInformation/53203053#topoflot (lots of photos here!)



I downloaded all of the photos for my collection as I had never seen one before.

Regards,

Jim

 

[Frulk]

Don’t believe the link takes you to the same model rifle shown by the OP.

Pretty sure (not positive) that the Lemat shown above has a second barrel under the top in a larger caliber than the upper primary barrel. 50 cal maybe like the revolver shown in one of the pics.

What little I know about Lemat's comes from the one I've had laying around the house for a number of years. Gifted to me by a friend who went overseas to work in Dubai.

Sadly, it's a non-firing replica. Otherwise Frulk would be on easy street.

 

[expat_alaska]

lemat carbine as close as possible to original

More photos and information would be nice! Who was the manufacturer?

 

[expat_alaska]

Don’t believe the link takes you to the same model rifle shown by the OP.

Pretty sure (not positive) that the Lemat shown above has a second barrel under the top in a larger caliber than the upper primary barrel. 50 cal maybe like the revolver shown in one of the pics.

I agree, but I thought it would be a similar Idea that the creator of the LeMat Carbine used for the creation of it. The original LeMat revolver had a .42 caliber cylinder with an approximately 18-19 gauge shot barrel the cylinder revolved upon.

If someone is very ambitious, Cabela's has a Pietta LeMat Cavalry Model .44/20 gauge revolver for $900 (in-store sales only) as a donor for such a project.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/sho...-cavalry-cal-bp-revolver/2349773.uts?slotId=6

Regards,

Jim

 

[snidervolley]

more pics

 

[snidervolley]

I am the builder of this gun and case

 

[snidervolley]

business end

 

[Russell13]

Wow first time ever seeing this. Very interesting

 

[Russell13]

I wonder why I have never seen or even heard of one of these. Was something that was in production during the Civl War?

 

[expat_alaska]

Snider,

I am very interested in what you used as a donor platform and the story about how this came about. Fascinating!

Thanks in advance, sir!

Sincere regards!

Jim

 

[arcticap]

I wonder why I have never seen or even heard of one of these. Was something that was in production during the Civl War?

It appears that there were as many as 200 made during the civil war.
Here's an original that was up for auction. --->>> https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdjulia/item/lot-134-rare-confederate-lemat-carbine-56582/

 

[bannockburn]

snidervolley

You sir do extremely nice work! Please share with us more information on your beautiful Lemat carbine!

 

[DocRock]

Sweet build! Gorgeous wood and case. Excellent work!

 

[AlexanderA]

All revolving carbines have the same problem: the shooter's left (or off) hand is exposed to blast and fragments emanating from the cylinder gap. Notice the strange shape of the trigger guard on the OP's carbine. Looks to me like a place to brace the gun with the off hand without exposing it to the cylinder blast. Interesting solution to the problem.

 

[snidervolley]

This one is 117,000

 

[snidervolley]

snidervolley

You sir do extremely nice work! Please share with us more information on your beautiful Lemat carbine!

It uses a standard lemat By pietta as a doner ,bottom of pistol grip cut off and straps straightened , thus requiring new manufactured spring as orig is curved , the butt plate was one of hardest to find replicating an original but I found an original of from musket if the time that was spot on , rear sight was made from scratch as original .
and barrel extensions and barrel bands

 

[AlexanderA]

Now that you've laid the groundwork, I'm hopeful Pietta or one of the other repro manufacturers will offer this commercially. They could probably sell them for $2,000.

 

[AlexanderA]

How feasible would it be to make a cartridge conversion? I know that there were a few cartridge LeMats made, but they were complicated and not too successful. I think the main problem was in designing a breechloading, cartridge central (shotgun) barrel. Why not leave that as muzzleloading percussion, while having a cartridge cylinder? The gun could be sold in its 100% percussion form (completely free from regulation being an "antique"). The cartridge cylinder could be available separately as an accessory (also not subject to regulation).

The same concept could apply to the pistol version.

 

[arcticap]

Now that you've laid the groundwork, I'm hopeful Pietta or one of the other repro manufacturers will offer this commercially. They could probably sell them for $2,000.

Personally I don't see a commercial market for it.
Uberti already makes a Remington Carbine with an 18 inch barrel.
And Pietta already makes at least 2 models with a 12 inch barrel that a butt stock can be added to.
I'm not sure that Pietta has the capacity to make another product, and with that expensive price tag.
And for whatever reason,they can't even seem to make more Star or Paterson revolvers that are in demand.

The only other carbine that I remember being produced was the Colt Root Model 1855 rifle by Palmetto.
For a variety of reasons it wasn't very successful.
Perhaps if it had been better quality it could have been.
I'll bet that some people would love those too, but not if it cost $2000.
Especially when compared to the cost of an Uberti Remington Carbine at $549.

If any company could make another Rogers & Spencer, and beat Pedersoli by doing it, then that could become one of the biggest new selling products.
But they sit idle and aren't attempting to make any of them for years now.

 

[snidervolley]

None of the others give the nine shot plus one shotgun firepower , and pietta made these but only a hand full and not for American market due to liability