Letter to the Governor of Missouri

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I sent this to the governor this morning.
A letter to the Honorable Robert Holden, Governor of Missouri.



Concerning HB 349 which was passed by large margins by the legislature and is sitting on your desk:

1) Have you read the text of HB349?

This bill is much more restrictive than Proposition B. In fact it is the most restrictive bill of its kind in the nation for “shall issue†permits. The education clause with marksmanship requirements are very stringent, as well as the list of places where LTC would be prohibited. And remember, the people who qualify for and pass these tough requirements are law abiding citizens and will honor the no-carry zones.

2) Since 1991, nineteen states have passed LTC legislation. Where are the Million Mom Marchers and the Brady Bunchers in those states? Why are they not active to repeal the legislation?

The answer to both questions is that concealed carry works. Law enforcement in those states comment that it really is not that big of a deal. LTC does not lead to “shoot-outs at the OK coralâ€, or highway shootings in traffic jams. The responsible citizens cherish the right to defend themselves outside of their homes and will not provoke dissenters into action that might have it revoked. They all can be trusted, and so can the responsible gun owners in Missouri. If Missouri was first in this philosophy, I could understand the concern. But 33 states have “shall issue†systems governor. The track record is in and you simply cannot support a position that this would be a bad thing. Bad for armed assailants that are free to murder, rape and rob here in Missouri, but not for honest law abiding citizens. Remember there are forty-four states with some sort of LTC law. That leaves six without such concern for its citizens. Tell me governor, if Missouri didn’t have a seat-belt law along with those six, would it concern you that we weren’t doing enough for highway safety? Well we clearly are not doing enough for the protection of our citizens when politicians lobby to keep them at risk to the criminal element in our state. I expect more for my vote.

3) Why are national trends not important to politicians in Missouri?

Other than a handful of “media accessible†ultra-liberal Democrats (California, New York, etc) the party as whole wants nothing to do with gun control legislation. Clearly the pro-gun voters have cost them the Congress and currently the White House. Experts said Gore lost his own state because of his anti-second amendment rhetoric. Last second campaign promises were not believed by the voters because they could see right through the charade. You don’t hear a groundswell of protest over the predicted action of letting the Assault Weapons Ban expire into the sunset next year. The republicans are not going to let it pass (the president is taking a chance here but it seems the wise choice) and the Democrats are not making much noise. Why is that? Because it has finally dawned on them that the Democratic Party is perceived to be aligned with liberal gun control factions and mainstream Americans are not and have voted that way in increasing numbers since the ban went into law in 1994. Why isn’t this obvious to the advisors and politicians in this state?


Governor Holden, I ask you to take some time and think about these three questions. Don’t talk to any of your liberal advisors; think about what has happened in the states with LTC rights. Concealed carry works governor, and works well. Not one state has tried to repeal it. Not One. Don’t you think if it was such a detriment to society that there would be those kinds of efforts? Allowing HB349 to become a law is the morally and politically right thing to do.



Thank you
 
Do bills that sit on the governor's desk for a specified length of time automatically become law, or must every one be signed by the governor?

Kharn
 
THere is no pocket veto in Missouri.

He can either sign it or ignore it and it becomes law. Or he can veto. We are right on the fence as to override. If all vote as they did to pass the bill, it will be overridden in Sept. But some of the dems could choose not to embarass the governor and side with him. There is a margin of 5 in the house, 1 or 2 in the senate.
 
Been a VERY LONG time since my 9th grade Civics class, but as I sort of very vaguely recall, in some states, unless specifically vetoed, will become law after "X" number of days. Don't know how things are setup in MO, though...
 
Governor Holden has until mid-July (I believe) before he will have to sign or veto. The rule is 45 days after submission when the legislature is not in session.

MO residents: Call his office and leave a voice mail on his opinion line. Send him faxes. Let him know that this is important.

Telephone: (573) 751-3222
Fax: (573) 751-1495
 
Right you are STL Glocker,

Although the legislature ended its business at 6:00 pm CDT last Friday, the official end is May 30. The Governor has 45 days, putting it smack in the middle of July. My birthday is the 13th of July, what a birthday present !! :D
 
I heard the governor himself on KMOX radio out of St Louis an hour or so ago. He told the host, Magraw Milhaven, that he said he would veto it. Milhaven pressed him on the issue, asking if he was just reiterating his campaign position and Holden said that he would veto CCW.

Time for my friends across the river to lean on the legislature.

Jeff
 
The Governor's got his neck in a noose and is about to willingly step off the stool. If that's how he wants to go down... good for him. At least he's standing by his own misguided values. We can all look forward to a Republican governor who WILL sign a CCW for MO... and one that includes 21 year olds... :fire:
 
What about this one:

Dear One Term Bob,
Go ahead and veto to make our day. Maybe someday your successor will be President.
Your's truly

Or:

Dear Bob,
Your courage is is an inspiration. I'm sure the voter will understand and the Repubicans won't kick you out of office and take over the House and Senate.
Signed,
Ann Richards, Texas
 
Rickstir and StLGlocker,

Article III, Section 31 of the Missouri Constitution reads, in part,

"Every bill which shall have passed the house of representatives and the senate shall be presented to and considered by the governor, and within fifteen days after presentment , he shall return such bill to the house in which it originated endorsed with his approval or accompanied by his objections. If the bill be approved by the governor, it shall become a law. When the general assembly adjourns, or recesses for a period of thirty days or more, the governor shall return within forty-five days any bill to the office of the secretary of state with his approval or reasons for disapproval. If any bill shall not be returned by the governor within the time limits prescribed by this section it shall become law in like manner as if the governor had signed it."

Since this bill was presented to the Governor on May 5, 2003, it looks to me like his moment of truth will be June 19, 2003. If he hasn't vetoed it by then, It's Law! :D

If he does veto it by then, :banghead: :cuss: :fire: it will be considered for passage over his objections (requires two-thirds majority), along with other bills which may have been vetoed, during a special session of the general assembly to be reconvened, for not more than ten days, on the first Wednesday following the second Monday in September (September 10, 2003). In that event the matter will have been decided by September 20, 2003.

For those of you in Missouri, NOW is the time to POLITELY write the Governor and keep the pressure on until he signs or vetoes it or until June 19, 2003.
 
Great letter, Rickstir. I am working on mine. It will be quite a bit shorter though. I have already e-mailed and tried to call his office (closed, bankers hours) but think a snail mail may be the most inspiring:D It's time to turn up the heat:evil:
 
Since this bill was presented to the Governor on May 5, 2003, it looks to me like his moment of truth will be June 19, 2003. If he hasn't vetoed it by then, It's Law!

I read elsewhere (packing.org?), that it was passed on May 5, but didn't get to his office (or won't get to his office) officially until after the close of session. He'll have the 45 days.
 
When the general assembly adjourns, or recesses for a period of thirty days or more, the governor shall return within forty-five days any bill to the office of the secretary of state with his approval or reasons for disapproval.

The bill wasn't delivered until May 21st, after the legislature had already adjourned. They've had the state budget front-and-center recently, which takes precedent over most other stuff.

According to the staff in his office, he's still taking a "poll" on CCW via his opinion line voicemail, despite publicly stating his intention to veto. I'm getting everyone I can to call in and leave a message in support of the bill. Can't hurt to try...
 
Whats the number for that line? I already sent an email and got a generic response. Dont know if that did any good, but it sure didnt hurt any.
 
StLGlocker,

Thanks for correcting me on that. :eek: You're right! Missouri's Congressional Web Site shows HB349 delivered to the Governor on May 21, 2003.

Adding 45 days would mean the Governor's moment of truth on License to Carrry will be July 5, 2003. If he hasn't vetoed it by then, It's Law! Say, that's the day after INDEPENDENCE DAY! :D Seems appropriate, somehow. :)
 
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