Lever action .30-30: will they be produced in 2100?

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Owen,
Speak for yourself. I make a threat to my VA case manager to live to be at least 200 years old. A threat I intend to keep. That will put me well past 2100.

On the other hand the world is going to come to an end this December.
 
No, the 30-30 will be scientifically proven not to be enough gun for deer.:neener:

But, 45-70 leverguns will still be produced and will still be killing the biggest and baddest critters on this world, and any others we happen to inhabit by then.:D
 
And suddenly, the thread veers into the realm of humor, science fiction and apocalyptic predictions. :eek:

Re .45-70: I hope that one survives, also, along with .22 and .38/.357 mag in lever.
 
I think that lever action 30-30s will still be made in the next century.

But I believe that they will be made from something other than steel and wood.

If you stop and think about it, can't you imagine someone one hundred years from now, looking at a Glock and marveling at how labor intensive they were to build.
 
Ain't nothing ever gonna replace the .22. Everybody makes one. And then there's mossberg keeping up with the times, slapping a synthetic m82 style muzzle-break on their bolt action plinksters. :what: The future looks REAL bright, don't it? The .45-70 already went away once- then it was revived by Marlin. Best thing Marlin ever did, and they did a lot of good things back in their day. I got an 1895 from 2008. It was after the FGI buyout, but it was before the New Haven factory closed, and before it became common knowledge that New Haven was doomed. It's fantastic. The .45-70 is a wonderful cartridge. I too hope it stays around this time. I would say the .45-70 is one of the most versatile cartridges of all time.

I have to agree with CZguy. It's already happening- just look at that goofy mossberg.:barf:
 
This is the one I want in .30-30.

Yeah, it's a Remlin, but I'll send it to a gunsmith to tune it up.

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Here's another thought that I don't believe has been brought up.
Think about legislation. At some point, someone could re-ban standard capacity EBRs; ban hunting rifles for being like "sniper rifles," etc... etc...

The levergun is a rather innocuous looking rifle with low capacity, and very "American." I think that if we see a ban in this country they way they have in several European countries, the leverguns will be among the last to be banned. They are the just about the most "politically correct" type of rifle, and would still make a darned fine fighting gun in a pinch.
 
I've heard that the guy who runs it is a staunch anti-gunner, but it may just be that he's an aristocratic moron trying to be the next Oliver Winchester- and failing miserably. I'm not sure, but as bad as Marlin has gotten, I'm inclined to think it's the first reason. It isn't like Remington, whom FGI also owns, is any semblance of their former glory, either. Luckily, FN owned companies are still producing quality, and Smith & Wesson is also a holding company, so whatever companies in which they are the primary stock holders (T/C, etc.) are safe. And then there is also Colt, which is fairing well and unlikely to be purchased any time soon.
 
If I were to buy a new Marlin, made by Remington, what should I be worried about? What are they doing wrong? What will I need to be on the lookout for? If they're such a bad company, simply sending it back won't be a promise of a fix. Is buying a new one simply out of the question?
 
A lever action break open katahdin carbine with a thumbhole stock, underbarrel muzzleloader attachment, and side-mounting single shot shotgun. Calibers include .458x2 American, .309 JDJ, 7-30 Waters, and 1 inch photon gama incindiary ray. Bolt action variant coming soon.:what:

Whalerman- sometimes the bolt won't even close properly due to poor barrel alignment or excessively rough surfaces on the bolt. The wood is now some low grade walnut plywood sort of thing as opposed to a well finished walnut stock, screws may be improperly threaded, sights may be loose, and I've even heard of parts missing altogether on a NIB rifle. Scary stuff.
 
^ Yeah, something like that.

(But not that's not what Whalerman needs to be worried about.
His post just happened to be in the same minute (12:07) as yours.
That's what he should look forward to. ;) )
 
First, let's define a levergun... Are we talking the same configs as we see today? If so, it will probably be an anachronism, only seen in a minority of settings.

But if you expand on that a bit... Allowing for stronger materials, faster propellants, guided bullets... I really don't see why not. Sounds silly but we're talking 2100ad. I'm sure I can find some use for my 15+1 space alloy levergun with guided hyper velocity rounds and real wood furniture. And if you want a tiny glimpse of that, hornady says "hi". Sure the format will never be cutting edge, but a levergun is still a great peace keeper / hunting platform no matter how you slice it.

IMO and all that.
 
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