Liberty animal instinct 100 grain 308.

[Hog huntin Harry]

Are liberty animal instinct 100 grain 308's any good ?
It's a 100 grain lead free copper HP at 3500 fps

 

[horsey300]

Are liberty animal instinct 100 grain 308's any good ?
It's a 100 grain lead free copper HP at 3500 fps

Looks like Lehigh controlled chaos not sintered but fracturing.......I guess depending on expectations it COULD be good, or it could disappoint. What are you wanting to do with it?

 

[jmr40]

Never heard of them.

But it might be a great option for close range work. I have loaded and shot some 130 gr Barnes solid copper from my 308 at just under 3100 fps. Accuracy was OK, not great, but acceptable. I've never put one into game, but the people who have report they work great. Copper tends to stay together and penetrate much better than lead bullets so you don't need near as much weight. The 130 copper bullets behave more like 180 gr lead projectiles.

The negatives are that they really need lots of impact speed in order to expand, and even though they start out blistering fast, they slow down quickly. None of the copper bullets are the best option for long range work and I'd think a 100 gr would be especially impacted.

 

[stringnut]

From what I can find they are fragmenting bullet. Supposedly made to come apart and drop game on the spot. Also stated to be a varmint grenade. Hmm, not quite sure what the use would be. The velocity is high, but, the sectional density and ballistic coefficient both would be pretty bad. It would lose velocity pretty quick. If designed not to penetrate what happens if you have to put into a shoulder of a big game animal? Cannot find a ton of info on them. I wouldn't be inclined to try them unless it is on varmints. At 56 bucks for 20 there are a ton of options for both varmints and large game that have proven track records at a better price.

 

[saiga308]

Are liberty animal instinct 100 grain 308's any good ?
It's a 100 grain lead free copper HP at 3500 fps

video time 2:42 has some penetration

 

[saiga308]

Are liberty animal instinct 100 grain 308's any good ?
It's a 100 grain lead free copper HP at 3500 fps

thier wont be much of a hog left for you after that round

 

[Hog huntin Harry]

I thought it would be pretty neat to have a 308 moving at warp speeds and to see what it would do to a yote but I'd be better off just getting some horn-daddy frangibles. Besides, I don't want to melt my budget barrel.

 

[Bfh_auto]

That

video time 2:42 has some penetration

Looks similar to a partition in performance. Wonder what the bc is.

 

[Nature Boy]

My assumption would be that you’d need a pretty slow twist barrel to avoid having these come apart in mid flight, however, maybe their being monolithic negates that concern.

 

[DocRock]

Why? It’s a pig. Any old cup and core in the 150 grs area at 2500 -2700 FPS is going to penetrate, expand, and kill hogs at any reasonable distance. They aren’t hard to kill. They require no exotic metals or designs. Core-Lokts, White Box, Bubba Gump’s Hawg Eliminators. Nothing even vaguely special needed. Unless those underweight for bore, super fast, speed-goat rounds are all you have and all you can find, or you are being paid by the manufacturer to shoot hawgs with them and then post on Insta, no, they are not good. They’re silly.

 

[Walkalong]

Why? It’s a pig. Any old cup and core in the 150 grs area at 2500 -2700 FPS is going to penetrate, expand, and kill hogs at any reasonable distance. They aren’t hard to kill. They require no exotic metals or designs.

Yep.

 

[ZGunner]

I’ve loaded some 110 gr Varminter’s for my Savage Model 10 PC a few years ago. They were super accurate at shorter ranges, never really stretched it out past ~150 yards. I wonder how these would work in a 300 BLK.

 

[someguy2800]

I’ve loaded some 110 gr Varminter’s for my Savage Model 10 PC a few years ago. They were super accurate at shorter ranges, never really stretched it out past ~150 yards. I wonder how these would work in a 300 BLK.

That would be a pretty neat bullet in. 300 blk or 7.62x39. No interest myself in 308, the ballistic coefficient has to be terrible.

 

[horsey300]

My assumption would be that you’d need a pretty slow twist barrel to avoid having these come apart in mid flight, however, maybe their being monolithic negates that concern.

If they're anything like Lehigh (and not being sintered I think that's still my closest comparison) the twist shouldn't tear em apart too bad, but they'll not likely get phenomenal penetration, the controlled chaos was designed for shallow multiple wound tracts with the tiny base pushing forward (picture a Barnes where the nose explodes rather than peeling back). It's a niche product for culling/control purposes but non lethal wounding would be too common in the wrong hands. Probably useful for home defense though come to think of it....

 

[Hog huntin Harry]

I need to change my profile name so people don't think I exclusively hunt hogs.