bikemutt
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Semi-auto + suppressor = much nasty, acrid blowback.
Light Weight, Soft Recoiling AR15?
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"Three questions:
1) What are you going to do with the rifle?
2) How do you rank these: recoil, reliability, weight?
3) Is this rifle going to get an optic?"
1. The rifle is to serve as a home defense gun.
2. Reliability > weight > recoil
3. Yes, I was thinking a lightweight optic like the Vortex SPARC or Primary Arms micro (Aimpoint too pricey, though will upgrade when I can).
I'd like the gun to also be able to be used by a family member that has trouble with weight/recoil due to an accident.
1) What are you going to do with the rifle?
2) How do you rank these: recoil, reliability, weight?
3) Is this rifle going to get an optic?"
1. The rifle is to serve as a home defense gun.
2. Reliability > weight > recoil
3. Yes, I was thinking a lightweight optic like the Vortex SPARC or Primary Arms micro (Aimpoint too pricey, though will upgrade when I can).
I'd like the gun to also be able to be used by a family member that has trouble with weight/recoil due to an accident.
Forgive me, but my physics was over forty years ago.
But it seems to me all else being equal the lighter the firearm the greater the apparent recoil.
And one other question. Is there such a thing as a heavy recoiling AR15? We're talking about what is basically a varmit cartridge designed to be fired all day with little detrimental effect on the shooter.
But it seems to me all else being equal the lighter the firearm the greater the apparent recoil.
And one other question. Is there such a thing as a heavy recoiling AR15? We're talking about what is basically a varmit cartridge designed to be fired all day with little detrimental effect on the shooter.
bikemutt
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One of the reasons an AR15 may exhibit excessive felt recoil is from being over gassed. Even one of those specimens doesn't kick like a mule to be sure, but they can be a bit jumpy.
Light weight doesn't always translate into more felt recoil, it depends to a large degree on how the recoil force is managed.
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That's pretty much what mine is set up for. Mine is a BCM midlength lightweight with Magpul furniture. It's light and has been very reliable. When it's cold cheap commie steel ammo doesn't always cycle the action completely, but that's the only stoppage I normally have.
I'd go with quality BUIS with tritium on a flat top receiver vs a cheap optic. The BUIS will always work and when you get a robust optic you'll still have good BUIS. If you can't leave it running for a year you probably shouldn't be depending on optic for when you need it.
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md7
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I would encourage you to consider the lightweight BCM mid length options, given your list of preferences. BCM has ( I think) 2 options of lightweight profile barrels. A standard lightweight and an enhanced light weight (elw I believe is what they're called).
An elw barrel with a Bravo Co KMR should be a pretty light and nimble set up.
ROAshooter
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soft recoil?
Im sorry....but when did 223/5.56.....turn into a hard recoiling round?
Im sorry....but when did 223/5.56.....turn into a hard recoiling round?
md7
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Nothing wrong with Magpul hand guards at all. That's what I use on mine and it's worked out fine with the light and sling that I've attached.
Something like a kmr (especially in conjunction with an elw barrel and lo pro gas block) will typically be lighter than a barrel with MOE guards and an fsb. But, the moe guards with a standard lightweight barrel isn't exactly what I'd consider all that heavy either. I only mention the kmr because I understand that weight may be a consideration for you after reading some of the previous posts.
Long story short.... The MOE guards are fine if you are fine with using them.
Something like a kmr (especially in conjunction with an elw barrel and lo pro gas block) will typically be lighter than a barrel with MOE guards and an fsb. But, the moe guards with a standard lightweight barrel isn't exactly what I'd consider all that heavy either. I only mention the kmr because I understand that weight may be a consideration for you after reading some of the previous posts.
Long story short.... The MOE guards are fine if you are fine with using them.
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That's what I did.
Put the money you save towards a good optic.
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justice06rr
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Just buy a Colt6920 and use 50 or 55gr ammo and call it a day.
An AR15 in 5.56/223 is not known for heavy recoil, but if you want this to be usable by another person that is recoil-sensitive, there are some ways to manage that. You could go with a midlength or rifle-length gas system for lighter felt recoil, use a heavier buffer, or make the rifle a little heavier to absorb more recoil.
A lighter rifle will actually have a heavier recoil. So you do not want a very light rifle to begin with. The Colt6920 weigh less than 7lbs stock. Add a full magazine and a light should bring you over 8lbs.
An AR15 in 5.56/223 is not known for heavy recoil, but if you want this to be usable by another person that is recoil-sensitive, there are some ways to manage that. You could go with a midlength or rifle-length gas system for lighter felt recoil, use a heavier buffer, or make the rifle a little heavier to absorb more recoil.
A lighter rifle will actually have a heavier recoil. So you do not want a very light rifle to begin with. The Colt6920 weigh less than 7lbs stock. Add a full magazine and a light should bring you over 8lbs.
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