llama handguns

[hotrodguy70]

has anyone ever heard of llama handguns or personaly used one of thier items i would like to know cause im interested in buying 1 heres the link take a look see and tell me what you thinks thanks.

http://www.usagunsales.com/Merchant...t_Code=SS-28948&Product_Count=&Category_Code=

 

[El Rojo]

Hey everyone. This is my brother-in-law. Please be good to him and give him lots of good tips. I would appreciate it and if you don't take care of him, he will divorce my sister.

I told him I had no idea what the Llamas were like. I suspect you get what you pay for.

 

[makarov]

The Llamas seem to be hit or miss. Some people on the board have had good luck with them others say they are crap.

If you want inexpensive, yet high quality look for a CZ-75 (actually any CZ) I have also had pretty good luck with FEG PJK-9HP (Hi Power clone). Rugers are good and also pretty cheap. If you want a 1911 style gun I have heard good things about the Rock Island Armory guns. They are about $300. Dan Wesson also makes a decent 1911 for the money. All in all there are other guns I would buy way before a Llama. You can't go wrong with a Makarov either....

Good Luck.

 

[Josey]

I used a Llama MAX-1 for my mud pistol. I took it with me in the fields for fencing, calf round-up, shots and spring cutting. It stood up to everything I put it through and it didn't rust up. I did open up the ejection port. A great pistol for the money.

 

[Preacherman]

I'm afraid I have to give a "thumbs down" to the Llama pistols. There have been so many problems with so many of them that you're literally trusting to luck as to whether or not you get a good one. You can do a whole lot better for not very much more money - e.g., add $100 to that price and you're in the ballpark for a Springfield 1911A1.

 

[Mr. Mysterious]

http://www.southernohiogun.com/new_hand.html

Don't forget to check for used at your local dealer...

 

[azrael]

Llamas are hit or miss...I wouldnt own one personally....put another 100-150 with the cost of the LLama and get a Springy Mil-spec...

one of my buds has one and it works fine...but only with hardball...and only for about 50 or so rounds...after that it becomes a jammomatic...He uses it for a truck gun..

I would buy me another Makarov LONG before I would buy a LLama..but that is just my .02 pesos

Brock lesnar is leaving wrestling after mania

 

[Snowdog]

has anyone ever heard of Llama handguns or personaly used one of their items

Hotrodguy, I've been overall pleased with my Llama MiniMax .45acp.

My Llama MiniMax .45acp with its favorite food, 230gr Remington Golden Sabers

It's the only Llama I've personally owned and I'm glad I put the money down for it, but I heard conflicting stories from other owners.

My Llama has never failed to feed, fire or eject (though it tends to eject the shells at me sometimes). Accuracy from my MiniMax as proven decent as well; it will put all shots in a dog food can's vitals within 7 yards.
I can't get the 25 yard groups I typically get from my Kimber, but it also cost a third of what the Kimber cost me for that matter.

My 1st series Kimber Custom Classic with EABCO electroless nickel and favorite chow, 230gr Hydra-Shoks (yes, I love show-n-tell)

Here's the problem....
I have a couple other friends that own Llamas as well. One is pleased with his, experiencing no problems and tickled with the money he saved. The other has experienced multiple failures to feed with several types of JHP ammunition and regrets his purchase.
So, when others here describe Llama as a "hit or miss" scenario, they're right on the money.

In retrospect, I'm glad I bought my Llama... but I don't think I'd chance the purchase of another.

 

[Viking6]

I've had a Llama 45 for about 11 years. Early on I had feed problems and had some work done on it, still had some problems from time to time. Recently bought some Chip McCormick magazines and it has done OK. I second someone else's comment, it often throws the spent casings back in your face. I would be wary of buying a Llama like others have said. My Llama is actually pretty special because it was a Christmas surprise from my wife when we were at Ft Bragg. She doesn't know much about handguns but I had mentioned wanting a 45, so that's what she got me. It REALLY is the thought that counts, so I'll never get rid of it and leave it to my son after I'm gone.

 

[Jim K]

Failures to feed with hollow point ammo is a problem not limited to Llamas.

However, a friend bought a Max 1 (new) and, while the gun looked good and was reliable, he had problems with accuracy. I tested the gun and got 12-14 inch groups at 25 yards, a bit less than ideal accuracy. I found the barrel was "fitted" in a very sloppy manner, and never went back in the same place twice in a row. All the internal parts showed signs of hand filing and fitting, never a good sign.

I gave him the bad news, and also an estimate for repairs, starting with a new barrel. He traded the gun.

Jim

 

[M2 Carbine]

I've had a couple Llamas.
The last being the MiniMax.
I about gave it away at a gun show.

There's several guns I wouldn't take for free.
One is a Llama.

 

[Moparmike]

I have shot one, and although I think I would get one, I would make some mods to it. Like a sufficent recoil spring for starters.


When my friend shot his Mini-Max, he must have been doing something wrong, because it failed to feed a couple of times. When I shot it, it absolutely beat the Holy Hell out of the webbing of my hand. No probs though. Probably had something to do with the death grip I was giving it after shooting my 10mm.

In Llama's defense, his pistol looked like it had been dragged down a mile of bad road, and then had its recoil spring replaced with a clicky-pen spring (meaning the spring wasnt absorbing the recoil at all). Shooting it felt worse than my 10mm. Much worse.

 

[tc300mag1]

They are hit or miss as has been said ive not had anproblems with mine(old ladys i should say).

Only thing is not all the parts are not interchangable with the true 1911 styles

 

[Nathanael_Greene]

I've got a Llama, and it's okay. It's a 6-shot Mini-Max in chrome. The biggest objection I have to it is that I'm left-handed, and the damned safety clicks on about every third shot, no matter how I hold it. I've had right-handed shooters shoot it; they like it just fine, and it's given them no trouble. Maybe I'll just weld the safety in the off position. Or maybe I'll sell it to a right-handed shooter.

Oddly enough, I shot an older full-frame Llama and didn't have this problem. In fact, I liked the older one a lot, which is what prompted me to buy the Mini-Max.

One thing about Llamas--they will take 1911 magazines, but 1911's won't take Llama mags.

 

[Ala Dan]

Greeting's All-

Hotrodguy70, Welcome Aboard My Friend. I have NEVER
owned a Llama firearm; and I'm not flaming your choice;
but there are several better choices out there! Every
Llama semi auto I've seen burps when trying to digest
JHP ammunition; leaving the shooter with a stuned look
on their face.

I once had a dealer try to sell me a Llama .45 automatic
for $200. He stated too me, " This here is an exact copy
of that there military .45 that those guys are carrying in
Viet-Nam". Needless to say so, but I just grined and
laughed within myself; moving on quickly to the next
table. I don't know who he was trying to fool; but one
thing was for sure, it wasn't going too be me!

With that said, I would see out a better 1911 platform
if that is what you are seeking?

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

 

[Kentucky Rifle]

Right as Kentucky was getting it's CCDW law signed be the governor, the "five minutes away from my house gunshop" was selling these great looking little .380ACP Llamas as "perfect" CCW pistols. I have to admit that they were indeed beautiful. I fieldstripped one and looked it over and it looked like it should have performed perfectly. The only thing that stopped me from buying it was that "Hit or Miss" reputation.
This shop has expanded three times now and is a pretty great shop, but they no longer sell Llamas. Every two or three months I think about that little pistol and wonder if the one I looked at would have been a "hit". It was a nice looking little .380. I don't mind spending the money for a nice gun, but it surely breaks my heart to get a "lemon". Thankfully, I've bought very few lemons and I won't sell one to an unsuspecting guy looking for something to carry or to defend his home. Sleeping is difficult enough and I don't need to add guilt. However, I did trade my lemon Autauga off to a member who needed one for use as a holster mold. Got a fantastic pocket holster for my Seecamp out of that deal! (Plus, the trade didn't effect sleep. )

KR

 

[hotrodguy70]

i went from a llama to a ruger p89

ive been taking your info and started looking at other guns and i think i have settled for a ruger p89 what do you guys think of those i can get 1 for $325 or less is that a good deal or not nib never touched

 

[goste]

LLama

Hi

I have owned two. My first was a max-1 (I think),commander sized .45. It was an ok gun. It would feed hollow point, or fmj. It was pretty accurate, I think because the bushing was so tight, I was unable to remove it without a bushing wrench. I sold it after a year or so. It just wasn't a gun that I really got attached to.

The second was a .380 small frame. I bought it from an old gent, that bought it new, and had fired 25 round's thru it. It was on older one imported by stoger. BIG P.O.S. I busted 2 barrel link's, in the first 100 round's. After I replaced the link, for the second time. It then broke the link lug off the bottom of the barrel. Poppit's gun part's had a used barrel, for 35 buck's. I was afraid to shoot it, and traded it to a bud of mine, for a taurus 85, I told him the problem's I had with it, and he still wanted it. He's still my friend, by the way. , altho now the gun won't feed half the time. Love the Taurus by the way .

I would advise against Llama product's FWIW. There are to many better gun's out there.

 

[rolltide]

I got a MiniMax in 45 acp. I love it. It has never missed a beat with ball or JHP either in slow fire or rapid fire. I purposely tried to fire it as fast and sloppy as I could to make it jam. No problems at all either with the factory mag or the 10 round Megar mags.

They say Llamas are hit or miss.

Mine is a hit with me!

Bought it used for $190.

It is a keeper.

Roll Tide

 

[p35]

The Ruger P-series guns, to answer your question, are generally considered tough, reliable guns, but a little chunky and homely. Ruger stands behind their products 110%. Someone may have a better handle on this than I do, but the P-85 had a lot of first edition type problems. I think a newer P-89 would be a good choice. FWIW, I have a P-97 (plastic framed .45) that I bought new for $300, and I like it a lot.

 

[tarrigoni]

I have a minimax .45 that broke it's extractior on the first magazine.
After I sent it in to Llama to get a new one put on, it works great and is quite accurate for such an inexpensive gun.

 

[shoobe01]

Llama used to make good guns, of their own design. Check out this:

And they made revolvers, when the Spanish constabulatories preferred revolvers (just like US LEOs).

The 1911 clones seem to be sold entirely on a new business plan of "cheap as hell." So quality frequently declines. Too bad. They ruined an okay company.