Well, I did a few things to update you guys. I took the ammo to a friend who reloads and he said that some of the ammo that was 158 was loaded to max spec or close to, but the box that was really in question, the 150gr with 9.0 gr of unique must have been an old box and label b/c the ammo was all over the place and loaded sloppily. My Dad seems to recall picking up a box of ammo a long time ago from a gun show...might be it I think. Past that I got some .38 Special reloads and took a box of the stuff that my Uncle loaded that got the OK and proceeded to zero the gun starting at 5 yrds to get it started. This gun was too easy. I got nice little nickel sized groups standing unsupported, took it to 15 to zero for what I had intended and was pleasantly suprised to see the groups didn't really open up too much. I shot the group with the support of my padded gun case and got half dollar groups with all loads, .38 and .357. Stood up and shot free hand and kept a fist sized groups when I did everything right. I feel if the target hadn't been a red bullseye or the front sight was a different color I could have gotten tighter groups still. Having a target and front sight post that are the same color sucks... Very happy with the gun and looking forward to experiencing more with my newfound love for the wheel gun! Next on the list is the need to start hand loading myself...