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*1950's vintage Colt Police Positive 38 Special 4" barrel, that I reamed the chambers out to 357 mag:
1) 18 gr. LIL'GUN 158 gr. XTP 1.59", WSPM, 1173 fps [Hodgdon max load]
3) 23.5 gr. LIL'GUN 158 gr. XTP 1.59", WSPM, 1155 fps
I wrote Hodgdon and asked why they stopped at 18 gr a 25kpsi, and they said that was all the powder they could fit in the case.
I asked them why not use the 158 gr LSWC, and they said that LIL'GUN was melting the bottom of the bullet. [But I don't have any trouble with 18 to 26 gr of LIL'GUN with 158 gr LSWC generic lead bullets.]
What I found was that more LIL'GUN past 18 gr just makes the revolver kick harder, make more noise, and more peak pressure. The chrono was not impressed. I was impressed with the high velocity at low pressures. I can get a 158 gr moving faster than that with a .380 and Power Pistol, but my 380 can take much more pressure than my .357 mag.
Looking at the Hodgdon data:
http://www.hodgdon.com/data/pistol/357mag.php
158 GR. HDY XTP COL: 1.580"
H110 16.7 gr 1591 fps 40,700 CUP
LIL'GUN 18.0 gr 1577 fps 25,800 CUP
Someone on the internet has pointed out to me that the Hodgdon 158 gr data is bogus, and that H110 is just as good.
What does it all mean?
I think I am going to switch back from LIL'GUN to H110, becuase it smells better.