locked and loaded

[Mainsail]

I'm just starting my kids shooting now, and I have to remember that every gun I show tham, I have just given them a promethian sense of power and understanding. They do not yet know that to use my M-1 carbine, you have to insert a magazine firmly and charge the handle. They do not yet know that to shoot my 870, you have to rack the slide to chamber a round. They do not yet know that the slide on my 870 will not move to chamber a round if you don't depress the lever on the trigger guard. FOR NOW, I can rely on these things to keep them safe.

Trust me, if they are older than four, they WILL figure it out.

 

[luigi]

I'm just starting my kids shooting now, and I have to remember that every gun I show tham, I have just given them a promethian sense of power and understanding. They do not yet know that to use my M-1 carbine, you have to insert a magazine firmly and charge the handle. They do not yet know that to shoot my 870, you have to rack the slide to chamber a round. They do not yet know that the slide on my 870 will not move to chamber a round if you don't depress the lever on the trigger guard. FOR NOW, I can rely on these things to keep them safe.

That's a dead kid waiting to happen

 

[AKElroy]

Trust me, if they are older than four, they WILL figure it out.

+111111!!!! Teach them EVERYTHING regarding your guns, and let them see them WHENEVER they ask. I keep loaded guns in my home, and I have ZERO concern over my 8 & 11 year old kids. They have fired these weapons & they know what they can do, they watch me clear them EVERY TIME they are handled, and they are required to clear them AGAIN anytime I hand them the unloaded piece. We make a serious game of it, right down to them having to recite all 4 rules before they can handle the gun. They must do this EVERY TIME.

Kids are human, and humans are really smart. If you can get to your guns, regardless how they are secured, so can they. Education is the ONLY true safeguard for your kids. A suit is being tried as this is written over a 14 year old shooting his friend because he assumed the gun was unloaded when he removed the mag. The shooters father is a cop, and the family of the dead boy is suing Glock. They should be suing this cop for failing to teach his kid proper gun safety.

We teach them to not drink drano or play in the oven, neither of which are locked up in my home. They can learn about guns in the same way.

 

[mljdeckard]

Did you guys even read the whole post?

 

[Nickotym]

With guns, I consider the loading and unloading to be a critical period; a time when there is the most potential for accidents. Loading and unloading repeatedly only increases the amount of time when the accident potential is the highest.

This is why we keep our handguns loaded and in the safe except the one on me or my wife. I keep a .22LR revolver unloaded though as I don't consider it a self defense gun. My HD shotgun is usually kept loaded but not chambered, except during hunting seasons.( I need to get another shotty that will be for HD only.) My HD rifle is kept unloaded with mags close by, I don't keep the mag in only because it won't fit in the safe that way.

 

[ironcode]

Loaded and chambered, in my nightstand drawer (when I'm not carrying it). But I don't have kids, so child safety is not a concern.

 

[Probie9]

When we were growing up there were rifles in almost every corner. We did not play with them. We knew better. Why is it so different now. Did we as gun owners forget how to teach our kids to obey the rules? Just my opinion.

 

[Sav .250]

If it`s "locked-up" I`m thinking you come in second.

 

[FAS1]

If it`s "locked-up" I`m thinking you come in second.

That's what we were thinking when we designed our lockbox. Your primary defense hangun must be loaded and readily accessable but safe, especially with children in the house. Don't assume your kids or their friends will always make the right choice about handling firearms. We all made wrong choices about alot of things when growing up.

When you make your bed it is covered and secure. You can even leave the door open at night and your gun is right there next to you. When you close the lid in the morning it locks automatically since it uses a spring latch option on the lock.

See group buys for 25% discount.

http://www.fas1safe.com

 

[Erik M]

Plinkers, hunting rifles, colletables under lock & key + a trigger lock. 2 weapons ready at a moments notice - .38 on the nightstand, and the 18" mossy 500 which is hidden across the room in the closet. I live alone.

 

[NMGonzo]

All my guns are loaded, but not all are at the ready.

Grab and walk out the door kinda thing.

 

[Water Garden]

nightstand gun is loaded.. One handgun in the safe is loaded.

 

[Palu]

No kids yet, so no worries, but we do have one on the way. I have a revolver and 12 ga. All loaded without a round in the chamber. However, when my kid(s) are of age, I will probably lock up the 12 ga. and use something like the GunVault for the revolver.

Anyone use the GunVault before?

 

[JMusic]

Search this, there's hundreds of threads. lets move on to tactics. Who here really know tactics and how many watch too much TV, or play too many video games?


Jim

 

[Evnldr]

Loaded.. Always.. At night my gun comes out of the safe and in the Tall Dresser next to my bed the my keys go in the safe (open and empty) . I have a alarm contact on my door open it and it chimes.. So I never forget to place my gun back in the safe.

 

[mountainpharm]

Rem 870 loaded, round chambered, safety off and immediately available on top shelf of closet. Glock 36 loaded, round chambered, and in handgun safe beside the bed when not CCW (safe required due to 3 year-old daughter). I don't want to be fumbling around with a safety in a high-stress defense situation so my two HD guns are always trigger-ready, to coin a phrase. Everything else is unloaded and in the big safe in the basement. I will eventually have to re-think the placement of the shotty as our daughter gets bigger, but this arrangement works for now.

 

[ironcode]

Rem 870 loaded, round chambered, safety off and immediately available on top shelf of closet.

Do you think this is a good idea? The 870 is not drop-safe; even with safety on, it's still not safe to keep it with a round in the chamber. If it falls down (say, an earthquake), somebody could get shot...

 

[mountainpharm]

Do you think this is a good idea? The 870 is not drop-safe; even with safety on, it's still not safe to keep it with a round in the chamber. If it falls down (say, an earthquake), somebody could get shot...

Works for us.

 

[BP Hunter]

I keep my shotgun in a closet in front of my bed. I also keep my Sig Sauer P220 carry, loaded in a holster , which is held by a fanny pack which contains an extra mag, extra ammo for the shotgun, a flashlight and a cellphone. In an emergency, I put on the fanny pack with the Sig already holstered to it and reach for my loaded but not chambered shotgun in the closet.

 

[sonier]

Real simple bed has two guns cocked and ready to go, these get decocked in mornings. i have a 30/30 winchester leaning against my door. lots of wild dogs and coyotes have been chased off with that. and i would not ever unload that gun, one in chamber hammer cocked on safe position. i also have a shotgun loaded to the gills with rubber buckshot. this is for the pesky neghorbors and kids who mess with my farm. it stays loaded its real simple everyone knows it when they come over. EVERY GUN IS LOADED. while some may not be loaded, the ones you will most likely find are.

 

[Extremely Pro Gun]

Do you think this is a good idea? The 870 is not drop-safe; even with safety on, it's still not safe to keep it with a round in the chamber. If it falls down (say, an earthquake), somebody could get shot...

Yeah and you can die of Swine Flue too!!

 

[sonier]

hahhaha, sometimes we take risks. like me loading a 1907 stevens dbl barrel that has accidently fired plenty of times when saftey was clicked off. simple spring adjustment fixed it. you can die in a car wreck tomorrow as well. its not safe driving fast, people die

 

[Hay seed 33]

I worry about leaving things loaded. Is there any merrit to mags failing springs loosing there tension from being stored loaded?? I keep a revolver loaded, no spring tension to worry about. That it.

 

[padd54]

I don't understand all these gun owners being afraid that their kids will get to their guns. I have always had all my guns loaded in my house, with one in the chamber and the safety off.
I brought up my two daughters this way and I am teaching my grandkids also.
I even teach them that if a strangers trys to get in the house, they are to each grab a gun and hide in the master bedroom, and if anyone comes through the door without calling their name to shoot first.
I have never had a mishap or seen any of them handle the firearms in an unsafe way. My grandkids are 8,10,11 and 16.

 

[Old School 2]

There's one over-riding concern I have to consider with the plan. It's the kids. Every action I take, I have to ask myself if the kids are going to outsmart it. For every fool-proof idea, there is a fool out there trying to make a name for himself. Sometimes when you tell yourself; "Oh, my kids would never look in THERE," you are kidding yourself.

I'm just starting my kids shooting now, and I have to remember that every gun I show tham, I have just given them a promethian sense of power and understanding. They do not yet know that to use my M-1 carbine, you have to insert a magazine firmly and charge the handle. They do not yet know that to shoot my 870, you have to rack the slide to chamber a round. They do not yet know that the slide on my 870 will not move to chamber a round if you don't depress the lever on the trigger guard. FOR NOW, I can rely on these things to keep them safe. As they learn more, I won't. If there is a gap between when they figure these things out, and when they are mature and responsible enough to be left alone with firearms, I will err on the side of safety and keep them cleared and secured.

The key to kids is this; I have a 5 year old and a 7 year old, at age 4 they both learned on bb guns, taught firearm safety and marksmanship. At age 5 came the .22 and .410 shot gun. Both of my kids have been well trained and respect the firearms. It is key to reinforce the rules daily. I can leave a loaded gun anywhere in my house and they know not to touch it. TRAINING TRAINING TRAINING!! Not to say anything couldn't happen but you should see my 7 year old empty a .45 with a .22 conversion! Brings a tear to my eye..