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janobles14
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M1 Abrahms tank.
rangerruck
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if you can afford it, you are talking something along the lines of chey tac, or bigger...
BeltfedMG
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Its hard enough shootin .50 cal at 1/2 mile and thats $3-$8 rnd, shootin 1 mile would take a heck of a gun and better yet shooter.
The rifles that can deliver the performance required for hits on practical sized targets at 1,760+ are very specialized and quite expensive, both to buy and to shoot.
Do a search for ".338 Lapua" or for "CheyTac". The current joke is "I thought my rifle was chambered for .338 Lapua, but it's really chambered for five dollar bills", but, that's really not a joke and the CheyTacs are worse.
Even with a suitable rifle, quite a bit of marksmanship and especially doping of environmental conditions comes into play when one says "1 mile". Ever heard of the "Coriolis Effect"? How about "spin drift"? "Density altitude"? Do you have a way to range 1 mile?
Even at that, finding a safe place to shoot that far is tough and many folks can't find a spot to shoot to even 1k. I drive an hour to shoot 1k, almost 3 hours to get 1,200, and have only had the opportunity to shoot much further on a couple of occasions. Perhaps you are more fortunate, and much practice at these extended ranges will be needed to even begin to have the skills needed for confidence.
I'd suggest that marksmanship and environmental skills be honed at more realistic distances prior to wasting money on a rifle that needs a highly qualified driver and is only truly justified in certain circumstances anyway.
Start with a .22, and once one can keep them all on a 1 gallon milk jug at 200 yards, go to a .308 and work to 1,000 to 1,200 yards. Once all rounds can be kept on a B target at that range, a good understanding of what is really needed for reliable long range hits exists and it *might* be worth the multi-thousand dollar investment to get into a true "extreme range" rifle.
Do a search for ".338 Lapua" or for "CheyTac". The current joke is "I thought my rifle was chambered for .338 Lapua, but it's really chambered for five dollar bills", but, that's really not a joke and the CheyTacs are worse.
Even with a suitable rifle, quite a bit of marksmanship and especially doping of environmental conditions comes into play when one says "1 mile". Ever heard of the "Coriolis Effect"? How about "spin drift"? "Density altitude"? Do you have a way to range 1 mile?
Even at that, finding a safe place to shoot that far is tough and many folks can't find a spot to shoot to even 1k. I drive an hour to shoot 1k, almost 3 hours to get 1,200, and have only had the opportunity to shoot much further on a couple of occasions. Perhaps you are more fortunate, and much practice at these extended ranges will be needed to even begin to have the skills needed for confidence.
I'd suggest that marksmanship and environmental skills be honed at more realistic distances prior to wasting money on a rifle that needs a highly qualified driver and is only truly justified in certain circumstances anyway.
Start with a .22, and once one can keep them all on a 1 gallon milk jug at 200 yards, go to a .308 and work to 1,000 to 1,200 yards. Once all rounds can be kept on a B target at that range, a good understanding of what is really needed for reliable long range hits exists and it *might* be worth the multi-thousand dollar investment to get into a true "extreme range" rifle.
Bubbles
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We have a .50-cal McMillan that hit a HMMV in the driver's door at 3588 yards... several times. The door is now in our garage.
Seriously, at the range you stated, you're looking at anti-materiel firearms, not anti-personnel firearms. Be prepared to write a big check.
Seriously, at the range you stated, you're looking at anti-materiel firearms, not anti-personnel firearms. Be prepared to write a big check.
Bartkowski
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Just wondering...what guns do you own, and how much experience do you have.
bogie
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Tell mumsy and da-da that you need a new English teacher.
Reading ballistics books can be hard work.
Reading ballistics books can be hard work.
An array of cartridges were designed to deliver consistent 1 MOA performance out to this distance, but VERY few rifles actually chambered for any of them can/will actually do it with any regularity. And even when the rifle/cartridge combination can/will, it's even more unusual that the man wielding it can/will. It's just not a reasonable pursuit, not even by the thinking present in most 'specialized' military outfits.
Seriously, I've owned two custom .338 Lapua Mags, an EDM Arms Windrunner chambered for the .408 Cheyenne Tactical, and a McMillan .50 BMG. And not even on my best day, with fastidiously crafted handloads and perfectly calm conditions, could I put three consecutive rounds in a space the size of a 175-lb whitetail (or a man's torso, if that's your angle) at 1600 meters with any of them. So ultimately, I quit that losing game and liquidated those rifles. Haven't looked back since, either.
And Bogie, ease up! This guy might be 40 and just drunk.
Seriously, I've owned two custom .338 Lapua Mags, an EDM Arms Windrunner chambered for the .408 Cheyenne Tactical, and a McMillan .50 BMG. And not even on my best day, with fastidiously crafted handloads and perfectly calm conditions, could I put three consecutive rounds in a space the size of a 175-lb whitetail (or a man's torso, if that's your angle) at 1600 meters with any of them. So ultimately, I quit that losing game and liquidated those rifles. Haven't looked back since, either.
And Bogie, ease up! This guy might be 40 and just drunk.
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http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=4882337#post4882337
Hopefully an elaborate troll. It, does, of course, take all kinds, so if the OP is serious, the first step is to get a good .22 and learn how to shoot.
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I have enough trouble hitting 'dead on' at a fifth that distance with my AR15, and I have well over a thousand dollars invested in it. I hope you have a trust fund 
Also, this isn't Call of Duty - you can't just pick up a rifle and shoot like that. even with a capable rifle, it takes years and years of practice to hit ANYTHING at that distance.
Also, this isn't Call of Duty - you can't just pick up a rifle and shoot like that. even with a capable rifle, it takes years and years of practice to hit ANYTHING at that distance.
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Jim Watson
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.45-70 worked pretty well in 1879. Helps if you can arrange to be one of the best shots in the business.
Yeah and even if he had the money...money doesn't make the shot.
Raiden, if you're serious about long range shooting, you're as much as $10,000 (could be twice that!) and several hundred hours from realizing that goal. Spend a few weeks using the tool that you already have access to...the internet. Research. Research. Did I mention research? That alone will eat up the first 25+ hours on the path to your goal! If it's just a passing fancy you might want to go run through COD4 on Veteran?
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EDIT Ouch...after rereading that I might have come across kind of harsh. Do some research. Read a lot. Look into simulators. Oh and the one sniper level in COD4 was probably the best video game sequence in a single player FPS to date! Can't bag too much on COD4 for that scenario alone!
Raiden, if you're serious about long range shooting, you're as much as $10,000 (could be twice that!) and several hundred hours from realizing that goal. Spend a few weeks using the tool that you already have access to...the internet. Research. Research. Did I mention research? That alone will eat up the first 25+ hours on the path to your goal! If it's just a passing fancy you might want to go run through COD4 on Veteran?
Byte
EDIT Ouch...after rereading that I might have come across kind of harsh. Do some research. Read a lot. Look into simulators. Oh and the one sniper level in COD4 was probably the best video game sequence in a single player FPS to date! Can't bag too much on COD4 for that scenario alone!
Look Raiden, consider that USMC Scout-Snipers are trained to hit man-sized targets with their M40-A3 rigs up to 1000 meters out, even in wind. But the several with whom I've had conversations have ALL told me they get REALLY apprehensive when prospective targets are more than 800 meters out! And do you know why that is, bro? IT'S BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW FRIGGIN' TENUOUS AN UNDERTAKING IT IS TO MAKE SUCH SHOTS AT THAT RANGE . . . . . AND THEY'RE SOME OF THE BEST SHOOTERS IN THE WORLD!!!
sarduy
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LMAO.... stop watching hollywood! :banghead:
get a .22lr the box read "Dangerous within 1.5 miles"
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C-grunt
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I can get you this for really cheap. Go to your local mall and tell the Army recruiter you want to be an tanker. They will even pay you to shoot an 80 pound round at that range. Plus the round explodes too.
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