Looking for 44 Special 200 grain Mild (cowboy) accurate, type loads

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Getting back into 44 special. No need for 44 mag.
Yes, I have Lyman cast, RCBS, Hornady manuals and actually searched the internet.:)

I have used HP38, Unique, but have seen some Bullseye data? Just curious on the faster powder like BE?

I have Auto Comp, Power Pistol 2400 and others but those seem to slow for mild loads??

So, any shared load for 200 gr LFN bullets??, I have plenty of data for the 240 gr LSWC.
 
I load 8.0gn of unique under a pc’d lee 200gn rnfp sized .430” with a cci lp primer. I’ve shot about 700rnds of this load through my 5.5” blackhawk and they are very accurate and pleasant to shoot. I don’t have a chrono but from the data I used it should be moving around 1000-1050.
what gun are you planning on using?
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I must have misread what you were looking for. Sorry theses are hotter that what you want.
 
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I have the powders I listed above. Other powders may be great but I do not have them nor gonna buy any others.:)
 
Barbaroja said:
I load 8.0gn of unique under a pc’d lee 200gn rnfp sized .430” with a cci lp primer. I’ve shot about 700rnds of this load through my 5.5” blackhawk and they are very accurate and pleasant to shoot. I don’t have a chrono but from the data I used it should be moving around 1000-1050.
what gun are you planning on using?
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I must have misread what you were looking for. Sorry theses are hotter that what you want.
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I loaded some 200 gr with 7.0 gr of Unique, may shoot them tomorrow.
I have a Ruger GP100 and a Smith in 44 special.
 
700X is very accurate at .44 Spl pressures with lead or coated bullets. W-231 does well too. So well, and I have so much, that I haven't tested newer powders.
 
Barbaroja said:
I bet 7 grains of unique will be a real nice easy shooting load.
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7.0 Grains of Unique is the Starting load in the Lymans Manual for the 427098 LSWC bullet weighing 205 grains. Should be a mild load. They show max at 8.2 grains 869 fps which is also their potential accuracy load. I do wish someone would come up with some more data on the lighter bullets in .44 Special, especially the 180 - 200 grain Cowboy type loads. There is some out there but its not consistent.
 
Rule3 said:
I have the powders I listed above. Other powders may be great but I do not have them nor gonna buy any others.:)
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Well, to be fair, you didn't list the powders you have...

Rule3 said:
I have Auto Comp, Power Pistol 2400 and others but those seem to slow for mild loads??
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This is what you stated.

Perhaps if you listed the "....and others." we could help.
 
Rule3 said:
I have used HP38, Unique, but have seen some Bullseye data? Just curious on the faster powder like BE?

I have Auto Comp, Power Pistol 2400 and others but those seem to slow for mild loads??
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Rule3 said:
I loaded some 200 gr with 7.0 gr of Unique, may shoot them tomorrow.
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I think you are right on track with Unique. The little bit I loaded .44SPC it worked well for me. BE-86 is, I believe, a little slower than Unique, but would likely produce the same results. FWIW, I tried BE-86 in light .45 Colt loads and I didn't like how it performed.
 
Titegroup is what I like best right now.
You should also be able to find a mild load with that power pistol. I found the average start charges for given projectiles to be pretty tame with it.
But that Titegroup works the best for me, clean burning, 4.7gr charge of it out of a 3in GP100 has light recoil, and thats with a Badman 240 LSWC. Probably load it a little lighter with the lighter bullet
 
You can basically walk the unique load back to almost zero. Watched a guy download 38 with a 158 back to 1.5 grains. You could watch the bullet fly down range.
 
Hooda Thunkit said:
Well, to be fair, you didn't list the powders you have...



This is what you stated.

Perhaps if you listed the "....and others." we could help.
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I listed the "appropriate" powders that I have. Listing H110, HS 6 and 2400 along with rifle powders wouldn't help much.
 
Howdy, did you ever get some nice loads figured out? I'm looking to get a lee 429-200-rf and I'm doing research for my load development.
 
My favorite is with WSF works well in a S&W 696 with 200 ish gr bullets. VV N340 is a close 2nd
For mild loads W-231 is one of my favorites with a 200gr bullet.
 
joneb said:
My favorite is with WSF works well in a S&W 696 with 200 ish gr bullets. VV N340 is a close 2nd
For mild loads W-231 is one of my favorites with a 200gr bullet.
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Would you mind sharing your wsf loads? I can’t find data for it but I am interested in trying it as I use it with good results elsewhere.
 
Bazoo said:
Would you mind sharing your wsf loads?
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I found WSF worked best for me at the upper end of the load range in my 3" S&W 696
210gr MBC coated RNFP
w-w Brass
GM 150
7.8gr WSF
H=935 fps
L=901 fps
Av= 915 fps
Es=34
Sd= 15
Me= 390 ft/lbs based on average velocity.
This load shot well for me in my firearm.
Shell extraction was easy.
 
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