Looking for an EDC Flash light

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Can anyone suggest a durable, maybe water proof (at least resistant), edc light? Id like it to be pretty small, about 4 inches or so. My price range is around $50. I was thinking about a fenix light such as the ld10 or something?

Tell me what you carry! Pictures welcome
 
Plenty of fans of Fenix and Inova here as well as Streamlight and others in that price range.
 
I like the Fenix lights. I have three of them and give them plenty of use. They have held up well for over three years. But there are many good lights available today.

You need to decide which type oif battery you want to use, AA, AAA, or 123. Then decide the features you want. At the very least you will want a high and low setting. Then decide how bright you need the light to be. You have already determined the size you want.

Finally, don't limit yourself to $50. For another 10 or 15 dollars you can make a big jump in features and power.

One of my favorites in the range you describe is the Fenix P1, but as I said, there are many great lights out there.
 
Fenix...

Fenix LD10 uses AA battery...love this light , I use it alot in the studio when shooting video to check camera settings in the dark. battery last a good while.

Fenix LD01 uses one AAA battery... nice small light.

Fenix PD10 uses one CR123 battery....

all of these have been going strong for me for awhile now. I do tend to use the LD10 the most due to the AA battery cost.
 
You can never go wrong with old faithful. The Mini Mag Light. I've got about 5. I carry one everyday and would feel lost without it. I've dropped them on concrete, in water, used them to chip welding slag..... I've put them thru its paces and have found them to be quite reliable. You can even clench them in your fist and use it like "brass knuckles". There are probably better more expensive lights out there but none with the reputation of a Mini Mag and for good reason. Good price, dependable, and almost indistructable. For home you got the regular Mag Light. That thing has knocked out more folks then anesthesia. Excellent secondary weapon. I hope this helps. Good luck.
 
I have/carry an Inova X5, it uses CR123 batteries, and seems to last a good long while. You many consider going to the candlepower forums (candlepowerforums.com). The guys and gals over there know as much about flashlights as the guys and gals here know about firearms, and the reviews and comparisons over there can be very useful for making a decision.
 
I have a StreamLight PT-2L and I'm very happy with it. It's right at your price range. It takes 2 lithium 123 batteries. 180 lumens with a strobe mode and an 18 lumen mode.

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I have a Mini Mag Solitaire in my pocket, Mini Mag 2AA on my belt, in both my vehicles, one in my hunting pack, and one in each room of the house. Picked most up on sale for $10-$12 a pop. The ones in the cars and on the belt have LED kits (bought them before you could get it standard), and 2 changes of batteries in the cars.

It's very easy to be prepared when preparedness is exceptionally affordable!
 
A1 EOS from ITP single 123 cell,pocket clip and key chain, twist on, three modes, low med high, bright little light battery life has been great and its super small wife has the same light but in AAA its the smallest light I think I have ever owned and puts off awesome light. They are somehow connected to olight. bought both of them at a gun show for 40 bucks can do cheaper online if you look. says its 190 lumen but compaired to my 200 lumen surefire its not as bright but prob a good 140-150 lumen area. highly suggest both the aaa and the cr123
http://www.amazon.com/ITP-Light-A1-EOS-Flashlight/dp/B003BXGDMW
 
Most AAA/AA lights (but not all) are a bit more compact and less "tactical" in nature than CR123a lights. The latter tend to be intended for use with a gun in low light conditions and have a higher "turbo" mode and often a "strobe" mode (which is useful in certain instances but not on a regular basis by any means), and most importantly, a "forward clicky"/momentary press 'on'". Almost all LEDs are very tough but many tactical lights are spec built for extreme toughness. Still, you aren't gonna break the LED emitter, so the body is of more concern, and the glass lens; unless you abuse your light or want a WML (weapon mounted light) don't sweat how tough your light is. Most brands mentioned in this thread are also durable.

If you do not need those "tactical" features and do not plan to use the light outdoors to light up large areas (throw distance is a factor - you want a smooth reflector for max throw, but most people find a Light Orange Peel texture more versatile, thus suitable for edc), your best EDC bet is a AAA or AA light, perhaps a 2AAA like the 4Sevens Preon 2. It's slim and easily carried.

A good compromise is a 1 CR123a cell like the Quark Tactical from 4sevens, which has the forward clicky, strobe, and is still compact.

I like a Quark Tactical for a daily light and a Nitecore IFE2 (which takes either a single whopping 18650 rechargable batt, or 2 CR123a cells) for night time specific use (e.g. walking the dogs) - it is extremely bright and has infinitely variable brightness. I opted for LOP reflector texture over smooth, as it's handier for close range/indoor use.

Any light with 100 lumens or so will do fine for walking on trails, finding things, etc. Once you get over 100-200 lumens you get vastly diminishing returns except for two things, A) tactical use and B) lighting up large expanses of the outdoors.

Indoor tactical use is best suited by the OP texture, as opposed to "throw" for outdoors which necessitates a smooth texture reflector.

With all due respect to the old guard Maglite guys there are way better lights for not much more money and with a similar form factor.

I have also got a 4Sevens Maelstrom X7 which is the brightest of my lights at 450 lumens and has a smooth reflector, but I mounted it to a carbine. It was just a little too bulky to carry comfortably in the pocket even for short duration walks and I now have the 350 lumen Nitecore, and the 180 lumen QT isn't bad either.

Just figure out your "must haves" and weigh them against the usual: comfort, cost, and brand/mfr preference.
 
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My favorite EDC/defensive light is the Streamlight PT-2L-it's on my belt at all times, and in its supplied holder, is 'bout the same length as my cell phone holster.
I've got a review of a number of Streamlights I got in order to do my own comparison (along with a couple of Surefires) on Amazon-check out the second review.
$41.44 delivered, but a few days ago they were around $38.

I prefer the CR123 units as they seem to be brighter than most AA/AAA units I've tried. My lights also see intermittent use-if you're going to use heavily, you may want to find cheaper battery models? CR123s are getting easier to find at decent prices (Police supply houses, Lowes), although my friends and I do group buys and manage to get name brand at around $1.43 each.

You might be interested in the free American Cop mag download with multiple flashlight articles?
Have We Gone Too Far? Duty Lights: How Much Is Too Much?

'Course, if by EDC you mean something to carry in your pocket, the PT-2L may be bordering on being too big?
 
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I've been a light geek for my adult life.

I'll be writing a review of a two-cell ElZetta soon. It's far outside your price range, but if get it, you'll never need another personal-sized light.
 
I hope I don't offend anyone here, but...

Anything that says Maglite on it is going to be incredibly tough, rugged, solid, and reliable, but absolutely pitiful as a source of light, by today's standards.

I own 4 Maglites of various sizes, and I can appreciate them for what they are. But the technology inside of them was surpassed about 15 years ago.

For $50, you can do very well these days with a compact, extremely bright, well-made flashlight. Just a few quality brands that make models in that price range, in no particular order: Fenix, 4Sevens, Nitecore, Jetbeam, Eagletac, Streamlight.

Some things to consider:

Batteries - AA batteries are much cheaper and easier to find than CR123s, but typically don't last as long or give as much brightness in a similar sized light. For a light you will use every day, that will go through a lot of batteries, I would recommend a single AA light. You will sacrifice runtime and brightness, though. The maximum brightness for single AA lights these days is somewhere around 135 to 160 lumens, and in a single CR123 light, you can reach 270 or more. If you don't mind ordering CR123 batteries in bulk online, you can find them for less than $1.50 per battery, and you won't go through them as fast as AAs.

User interface (UI) - For EDC lights, I prefer forward clicky switches. Twisty lights are typically more durable and reliable, as they are missing all the pieces of a clicky switch. But clicky lights are usually a lot easier to operate with 1 hand. Forward clicky swicthes allow a momentary flash of the light without turning it on. Reverse clicky switches don't turn on until you fully click the switch on and release. As far as mode switching, I like my EDC lights to cycle through modes by soft pressing the switch, and reverting back to the first mode when the light is off for a few seconds. This way, you always know exactly what mode will come on first. If your light cycles through modes high->medium->low, and you want low without blasting high, just hold the light bezel against your body and press the switch 3 times. This is a little more difficult with a twisty light.

Beam shape/tint/temperature/quality - This took me a long time, and a lot of trial and error with many flashlights, to understand. I prefer a warm temperature (3300k to 4500k), soft white tint, and floody profile to my beam. Some people prefer throwy beams that light up a small, tight area at farther distances, but aren't great for close-up tasks. Some people like cool white tints/temps that look brighter, but don't render colors as well as warm white beams. It's all personal preference, but it's hard to decide what you like until you've used dozens of different flashlights. A light with a 300 lumen beam may have rings, a donut hole, a blue or green tint, or other nasty things, while a 100 lumen light may have a perfectly balanced spot-to-flood beam with no rings or artifacts, and a pleasing warm white tint.

Value - I really believe that with flashlights, you get what you pay for. Some people scoff at the thought of spending $150 on a Surefire or Ra light, then go buy a $20 Maglite at the hardware store, and they're perfectly satisfied. But I'll bet that if that person was given a Surefire for free, and asked to use it along side their Maglite on a regular basis for a few nights, you'd have to pry that Surefire out of their hands.

Be careful once you enter the world of high-quality, compact, modern flashlights...it can become very addictive.

Oh, and for MUCH more information than you could ever possibly need, go check out Candle Power Forums.
 
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Take a look at the 4Sevens line-up.

www.4sevens.com
http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?cPath=297

They have about every configuration you can imagine and have (7) 4Sevens lights ranging from 1AAA keychain size in stainless to
2X123A 250 lumen OTF Maelstrom and everything in between.

All 4Sevens come with a 10 year warranty and all the product is repaired or replaced out of Atlanta, GA. 4Sevens typically pushes the envelope including high power and lumen output. All their emitters are CREE (USA Product). 4Sevens does an ANSI out the front (OTF) rating where many companies just pull numbers from the emitter rating a don't compensate for the actual throughput. Kind of like the old motor rating of HP of the motor and HP at the prop.

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ReVo Stainless 1XAAA on the key ring.

You need to decide whether you want throw, spill or both. The momentary switch on the tailcap can be handy for a quick "blast" and also whether the pushbutton is recessed or exposed. Recessed allows it to stand on its own for illumination from a table top for example.

My personal favorite (EDC) is the stylus style Preon II. Runs on 2AAA. Three light settings, including a strobe settng. I frequently use all three settings (independantly) depending on the task light required. I like the compromise of throw and spill, meaning it has good reach and flood qualities. I also like the thin profile and often carry it like a pen in a shirt pocket. It is light enough and small enough in diameter that you can (carefully) hold it in your mouth for hands free work when you forget your heaband light. No "tactical" pulse mode.

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Preon II 2.2-160 Lumens OTF
http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_332&products_id=1932
$49.

The smallest high output 4Sevens I have is a QMini CR2. This light is simply amazing from an output versus size standpoint. On/off is head itself and has three outputs. Downside is the battery, not that common so you need to keep a few around, but it was designed from the ground up to be small and powerful. 180L OTF :what: :eek: Amazing for such a small light.
http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=297_355&products_id=2197
$39
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Here is a funky thing I put together; this is a Quark Mini CR2 attached to a small buck knife a clip and some para (needs more para).

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Here is my EDC most days.

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All in all I like the AA and AAA lights as you can always get batteries and you can do a nice
Sanyo Eneloop Recharger set-up in AA and AAA for about $40.

For throw, boating, walking dogs, I have a 4Sevens Maelstrom G5 at about 300 Lumens. The same light a year later is 480 Lumens. (Flashlight Wars).
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and one with a remote switch for an AR.
 
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By the way, for those who could never justify a Surefire - many of the incandescent models have recently been discontinued by Surefire. These models are now available from a wide range of online retailers for closeout prices. An example - A C2 Centurion used to go for $90, and I just picked one up last week for $50. If you want more power and runtime than the 65 lumen incandescent bulb offers, simply unscrew the head (as with any C, P, or G incandescent model), drop out the entire lamp/reflector assembly, then choose from dozens of different "P60" drop-in modules ranging from as many manufacturers, from $15 to $75 or more. You can get High CRI (color rendering index) LED modules, XM-L modules that put out 460 lumens, modules with 5 different levels of light, etc.

These P60 format lights are the most customizable, interchangeable, upgradable flashlights you can buy. There are different switches, bezels, lenses, lamps, LEDs, body tube extensions, lanyard rings, etc. that are made by various companies that all fit the same basic Surefire P/C/G bodies. Buy 1 Surefire light, and have endless fun customizing and hot rodding it.

Having said all that though, it's a slightly large format for EDC. But if some people can CC a full sized 4" .357 or .44 revolver, than surely one can pack a Surefire 6P. ;)
 
Can't get one for $50 bucks but my EDC is a Surfire executive defender. I can't believe they let you board airplanes with it.
 
Also there is the Jetbeam BA10 it has recieved great reviews and IMO the price is pretty reasonable.
 
My mini Maglite had a bulb burn out. Bought a replacement bulb and it would never seat properly, stopped being reliable. Sat in my truck glove box without batteries for five years. I recently started taking preparedness seriously and bought an ITC 700 Polestar (700 lumens with strobe capability) for the glovebox and a ITC SC1 Eluma (200 lumens with strobe) for my nightstand. The SC1 is in your price range. I will be buying more of those for gifts, Get Home Bag, etc. Comes with extra switch and extra bulb.

LED technology is awesome. Too bad the CREE (bulb) factory is in tight with Obama. It sucks to support Friends of Barry.
 
+2 for the 4sevens preon ii and the mini. i personally went for the mini 123 just to streamline battery use. i also have a 4sevens quark AA2 that gets some bedside action and edc. (i have given 5 mini 123's as gifts because people were simply amazed by mine!)

my fenix tk12 is maybe larger than you are looking for but it's a must for my home and person due to its momentary switch and incredibly rapid strobe function.

a VERY affordable option for a VERY bright light is the solarforce L2 that you can buy on these very forums from jimdo who is one heck of a guy. well built and blinding for around 30 bucks. (ive bought 4 from him because friends and family keep stealing them!)

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=451093&highlight=solarforce
 
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The 4Sevens Preon II is a great choice. It's really convenient to carry and having the different brightness levels helps stretch the battery life since you don't usually need to put it on high.
 
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