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I've worked in IT security. I've dealt with tons of people who have had laptop bags, messenger bags and purses stolen. For that reason, I am way to paranoid to risk off body carry. My girlfriend wants a concealed carry purse, but I have advised her against it since I've dealt with dozens of incidents involving lost smart phones, laptops, tiny mobile pc's and netbooks that were in small carry bags. Everyone that had them lost or stolen was %100 confident that they were careful and it would never happen to them and that each incident was an isolated fluke. To each his own and I won't knock anyone, but I'm too paranoid to risk off body carry. I could lose it or it could get stolen. I could also get beat half to death trying to hang onto it if someone tries snatching it while his thieving buddy pummels me from behind (happened to a guy with a messenger bag at my last job).

So what kind of stuff are you routinely doing? Like out to client sites?

I'm the network admin for a large defense contractor, but I'm usually sticking close to my office and our data center. It takes several card swipes to get where I'm at all day, so I don't really worry about my stuff getting stolen. Plus I administer the security system so I can see the record of what cards came in/out, and match it up with the camera footage. I also don't have any proprietary data on my actual machine, and we require 2-factor authentication (RSA keychain) for all external access. So there really shouldn't be any danger if my machine was stolen anyway.
 
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Carrying your handgun in your man-purse is not a good idea IMO.
It's too easy for you to be separated from your purse.
This is why my wife never carries her pistol in her purse.
 
So what kind of stuff are you routinely doing? Like out to client sites?
At that time I was dealing with breaches of security for a large corporation. I analyzed what types of damages could be done when who loses what. Like worrying about what type of attack vector could be learned if a pc tech lost his laptop, or what data might a salesmen have had that could be a breach of security for his accounts. It was the stone ages, before IT had a more secure grip over what data can and can't be taken out locally. Nowadays you just encrypt the devices and limit what data can be stored locally. If it is lost, you press a button and remotely wipe the device completely and possibly lo-jack it.

Just dealing with all those incidents of stolen or lost bags made me view off-body carry devices negatively, so I'm biased. I mean an account rep's pda (before smart phones, stuff like the original rim) back then was his life blood since he worked out of the office %90 of the time. It contained his accounts and contacts so they tended to be protective, yet a few managed to lose them nonetheless. Stuff happens, so I expect that it could happen to me. If it does happen to me I don't want them snatching my bag, finding my gun in it down the street, finding my address or business/family members' addresses and figuring out a new target and graduating to home robberies/invasions or using my weapon to commit a crime.

These days I sit at a desk and mainly do networking stuff. Boring and exciting all at once.

My area is secure and I don't worry about anything being stolen at work or in the secured lot. I don't carry off body because sooner or later, I need to leave work. I could see myself leaving the EDC bag in the car while I pumped gas really quick...arguably one of our most vulnerable times. I just prefer to keep it IWB. It's simple, easy to draw and I know it's there at all times. Nothing's foolproof, but I just can't bring myself to off-body carry.

I don't fault anyone for off-body carry, I just see too many negatives for me to do it. Then again, I consider myself moderately paranoid.
 
Yeah, you're right about nothing being fool proof. I just find that personally I'll start to slack on carrying when it gets to summertime. If I have the bag with me, thats still immensely better than nothing. I figure that when I'm filling up with gas, having the bag on the passenger seat is better than a 1911 on the counter at the house.

With our company being involved in the military defense contractor stuff, we still have specific regulations about no firearms in the building, no foreign nationals without escort, etc. Its not so much the stuff we're doing, but another division actually develops and manufactures aviation recorders (black boxes) in the same building. So my weapon has to stay behind in the vehicle when I'm at work anyway. Not the best scenario I know, but nothing else I can do really. So that's another case where keeping the EDC bag is easier than a concealed holster, because I have to leave it behind when I enter the building anyway.
 
So my weapon has to stay behind in the vehicle when I'm at work anyway.

My parking lot is secure and I can't carry inside, either. My weapon stays locked up and I keep a high noon split decision in the car locked up with it. It's cheap, it slips on easily and carries well enough. It's also tuckable to boot. On lunch or after work, all I have to do is shove it in my waist line. I wear mostly Haggar dress pants or khakis because they have about 2" worth of elastic extension in the waist that isn't noticeable from the outside, so they fit fine with or without a weapon.

http://www.highnoonholsters.com/Product_Line/Split_Decision/split_decision.html
 
That's funny, I actually am a fan of High Noon also. I've got a Down Under w/straps that I like a lot. I mainly chose that one because it had the leather piece that shields the gun from your skin on the side. That and some plastic-type paddle holsters are all I have that I can take on/off without removing my belt. Maybe I need to try the clip-type, because the straps just take a bit too much effort to feed under your belt, etc.
 
the problem with these bags IMO is this
I got it to carry A
well this looks handy and its small so i might as well throw it in too
x1
x2
x3
x4
x5
.......
x30
x40

where does it stop....everyone says oh this particular thing is small and inconsequential i wont even notice
but when you get 50 of those "inconsequential" things, it becomes huge and heavy
 
You're absolutely right, and thats why I don't put anything in there thats not something I'll actually use. Its daily stuff, not zombie invasion stuff.

In fact, I keep the 'main' compartment of my bag empty. That way I keep the non-essential stuff out, and the bag is still useful as a bag. Like stopping by the grocery and not leaving with another plastic sack, or those times when you almost want to pass on buying something because you know you'll have to carry it around the rest of the day.
 
+1 wh!plash

I also keep my main compartment empty. I only feel the weight of the bag if I fill the water bottle up completely. The point of this post and others like it is to report what is useful and what is a waste. I'm basically done with my bag, and don't have to fight any urges to add more gadgets. Especially now that I'm working on filling my Eberlestock Halftrack :D
 
where does it stop....everyone says oh this particular thing is small and inconsequential i wont even notice
but when you get 50 of those "inconsequential" things, it becomes huge and heavy
Critical thinking skills and real world experience do wonders for not just tossing something in there because a guy with a screen name on thr said it's necessary in a convincing and knowledgeable sounding paragraph.
It's been my experience that most people who do BOBs and such haven't spent a night under the stars in years, let alone walked more than the distance from their vehicle to the back of Wal Mart.
Experience +critical thinking = manageable and intelligent loading
 
This setup has been working well with the Maxpedition. The first aid kit, geared for stopping blood flow, is kept in the backpack.

I love my little monocular. The last time I used it was last Thursday, when I spied on Drew Barrymore! True story.

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The para chord is invaluable. I've used it for everything from leashing runaway dogs to securing a pizza while riding the bike.

The Case knife is also used every day.

Electrician's tape is more useful to me than duct tape. It clings better esp in bad weather and will hold parts under tension.

The small tools get used quite a bit

The EDC flashlight is a mag mini

The notebook is immune to rain, and there's a pen that writes in the rain to go with it. I use it for all kinds of things including my load info.

The big pen writes and can smash auto glass.

Spare gloves are essential. As the weather gets colder I'll have a spare hat as well.

The contacts are great to have.

I keep some simple bandaids and cream in the maxpedition. The major first aid kit is geared towards stopping blood loss, since that's one thing I might be able to do. I have quickclots plus a lot of 4x4's and even a tourniquet or two. Plus some immodium AD and pain pills.

Pre-paid cell is fantastic

Wind-proof butane lighter

None of it is for "bugging out." It's for everyday use, based on what gets used. If anything I have too much ammo.
 
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It's been my experience that most people who do BOBs and such haven't spent a night under the stars in years, let alone walked more than the distance from their vehicle to the back of Wal Mart

Which is the main reason why I always suggest people keep both their Bug Out Bags and Every Day Carry bags tailored towards an actual realistic goal. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that 90% of us on THR don't live in rural Wyoming or some other such area. Most of us live in cities or towns, and are only a few miles away from many other cities or towns. So where are you Bugging Out to? Probably another city or town. If there is some disaster in your city, like a tornado, and you have an unaffected city a few miles away, your first thought should not be "I'm gonna go live in the woods til this is over". That's counterproductive. Get from affected city A to unaffected city B. As human beings, our greatest strength lies in our ability to work as a group, and the use of complex tools (technology). Thus, your greatest chance of you and your family surviving is to take advantage of those two things, and get to another unaffected urban center. Your BOB should be tailored to make that goal easier.

Think of the challenges your will encounter along the way. Excessive traffic, LE checkpoints, price gouging on food and gas, petty crime and assault, even boredom. Then look at what you would need to tackle those challenges. Does a fishing kit help you get gas for your car? You might say "No, but it gives me food". Again, that might be true if you live in the wilderness already. But if you're traveling from a big city to another city, how many opportunities to go fishing do you really think you'll have? How about a place to gut and prepare fish? Make a fire for cooing? Keep in mind, you're doing this in a city, on the highway, or in yet another city. That's the kind of disconnect in thinking I see a lot of people have with their BOBs. They get overtaken by the "gee this little fishing kit is neat" factor, and don't really think "when am I really going to use this?"


wheelgunslinger mentioned that most probably haven't spent a night under the stars in years. He's probably right. But that generally doesn't matter. If you're a city dweller, that's the kind of area you live in and need to get out of, probably to another city. So your camping skills, or lack thereof, are basically irrelevant. So don't build your BOB around camping. Build it around challenges that would arise in a city.

Make a list of goals
Figure out how those goals relate to where you are and where you're realistically going
Plan your gear around those two things, and leave stuff that doesn't fit that plan behind.
 
It's been my experience that most people who do BOBs and such haven't spent a night under the stars in years, let alone walked more than the distance from their vehicle to the back of Wal Mart

Your acquaintances seem lazy or fictitious. My experience has been the opposite. I and those I know who care enough about such things are avid hikers, kayakers, campers, and so on. My own EDC bag has been on multiple mountain hikes and trips down the river, even though it's primarily for an urban setting.
 
I have a small 'day pack' but it doesnt compare at all to what you are all prepared for, looks like I have some additions to make.

1. CRKT Ringer Hawkbill
2. Glowsticks (6)
3. Butane Lighter
4. Matches in waterproof container
5. Basic first aid kit
6. extra t-shirt
7. Colt 5" dagger
8. 120 Lumen LED AA flashlight
9. notepad w/ pens & thick sharpie (could be used for defense)
10. 12 feet of paracord

If need be one entire pouch is dedicated to spare mags or quikstrips. I EDC alot of what I have a twin of in my b.o.b. as well.

a fan of High Noon also
Not to get off topic but - Very satisfied Tailgunner, Yaqui slide, Under Armor, and 3 different Mr. Softy's owner here. My only wish is that they would make some more OWB stuff for larger framed pistols.
 
Here's a realistic urban survival bag list...

Complete change of clothes
Small towel
First Aid Kit
Quick Clot
Antibacterial Wound Wash
Heavy Bandages
4 MREs
2 Cans of Mt. Dew
2 Cans of Sprite
Survival Knife
Mini Tool Kit
Glow Sticks
Paracord
Roll of quarters
$100 Cash
Prepaid Charge Card
Shaving Kit/ TP/ Soap
City Map
Coded Phone List
Hand Crank Flashlight
Hand Crank Radio
Walkie Talkie Set
 
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