looking for mi first over and onder
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Neither the Ruger or the Browning fit his price range, unless he finds a good deal on a used one. There is a post about Yildiz, a gun sold in Texas at Academy Sporting Goods. I don't know if they are sold elsewhere. They run around $400. 12 ga has a barrel length of 28" and comes with 5 choke tubes.
Edit: this gun is for sale and fits your price, but its a 28 gauge. Maybe you can find a 12 ga Redhead. The CZ guns look nice.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=211153
Edit: Here you go:
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=55797815
Edit: this gun is for sale and fits your price, but its a 28 gauge. Maybe you can find a 12 ga Redhead. The CZ guns look nice.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=211153
Edit: Here you go:
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=55797815
hawgbosstx
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I know where there is a used Citori for less than $400. It is in very good condition but is an older model. But overall it is a pretty nice gun. Plus another guy on this forum has a beretta 686 for $450. E-mail me.
Excellent. I avoid threads about the cheap over/unders because they usually deteriorate into accusations of gun snobbery. I don't apologize for thinking the cheap imports are generally crap because they are. You get what you pay for.
There are however ways to get good quality over/unders on the used market for great prices. For two of the name brands you mentioned generic versions exist that are every bit as good. Weatherby guns are made by SKB. The SKB marked guns are less expensive and very solid, reliable guns. I spent an afternoon with one in 20 gauge and was disappointed when the owner refused my offer to purchase.
Miroku of Japan is actually the maker of Browning Citoris. They also made guns for Charles Daly and you occasionally see Miroku-marked guns for sale in North America. The Daly guns aren't quite as nicely fitted and finished as the Brownings but the Mirokus are very close.
Finally there are guns marked "Golden Eagle" or "Nikko." These are exceptional value on the used market because not many people realize these guns were built in the same factory, by the same people who were building the Winchester Model 101. The 101s command a much higher price while the Nikkos frequently go begging.
MCgunner
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I'm not afraid of less expensive guns, of course I'm not a gun snob. 
I hunt with a Mossberg pump and a Winchester Ranger M1400 auto, not exactly the choice of the elite rich and famous, but I'm not a poseur, either. I have a white trash budget, quite appropriate I reckon.
I'm wanting that Yildiz really bad. Checked it out at Academy yesterday, read a LOT of good stuff about it just googling it. Now, I'm wanting it. I have an old Spanish built Sarasqueta side-by-side that cost me 100 bucks on a going out of business sale at Cook's discount center in Bryan, Texas in 1971. That gun is still tight, still shoots great! Yeah, after so many years in the salt marsh, it's a little beat up (understatement), but after many years of abuse with 3" magnum loads for ducks and geese, it's still tight as a drum and still 100 percent functional. Yep, I got a great gun for what I paid! I don't subscribe to the "get what you paid for" mentality in anything. I'm always looking for more product for less money, just the way I am. If I lived by the "get what you paid for" creed, I'd not be retired at 53 years of age. I know a lot of "beat the Jones'" types that will never be able to retire, no savings, no 401K, all goes to buy "quality" stuff, expensive cars, huge mortgage payments. Nope, I couldn't care less what the Jones family does. I like a nice $20,000 double gun just like anyone else, but I know my limits. If I ever hit a lotto more'n 20 million dollars, maybe I'll get a hand build English double or something.
Check out this response from gunandgame.com I found:
After reading THAT one, my desire factor went up about 10 fold. LOL!
I hunt with a Mossberg pump and a Winchester Ranger M1400 auto, not exactly the choice of the elite rich and famous, but I'm not a poseur, either. I have a white trash budget, quite appropriate I reckon.I'm wanting that Yildiz really bad. Checked it out at Academy yesterday, read a LOT of good stuff about it just googling it. Now, I'm wanting it. I have an old Spanish built Sarasqueta side-by-side that cost me 100 bucks on a going out of business sale at Cook's discount center in Bryan, Texas in 1971. That gun is still tight, still shoots great! Yeah, after so many years in the salt marsh, it's a little beat up (understatement), but after many years of abuse with 3" magnum loads for ducks and geese, it's still tight as a drum and still 100 percent functional. Yep, I got a great gun for what I paid! I don't subscribe to the "get what you paid for" mentality in anything. I'm always looking for more product for less money, just the way I am. If I lived by the "get what you paid for" creed, I'd not be retired at 53 years of age. I know a lot of "beat the Jones'" types that will never be able to retire, no savings, no 401K, all goes to buy "quality" stuff, expensive cars, huge mortgage payments. Nope, I couldn't care less what the Jones family does. I like a nice $20,000 double gun just like anyone else, but I know my limits. If I ever hit a lotto more'n 20 million dollars, maybe I'll get a hand build English double or something.
Check out this response from gunandgame.com I found:
After reading THAT one, my desire factor went up about 10 fold. LOL!
MCgunner, before you let your enthusiasm run out of control I'd suggest spending some time on the Yildiz forum on shotgunworld.com. Pretty spotty reviews with reports of broken firing pins, poor barrel regulation and doubling.
Lots of raves about the service though. That tells me that Briley is excellent (knew that already) and that many owners have had to take their guns back to Briley for service (another not very good sign).
Lots of raves about the service though. That tells me that Briley is excellent (knew that already) and that many owners have had to take their guns back to Briley for service (another not very good sign).
I often subscribe to the get what you pay for creed, but in this case, I just wanted to try an O/U without spending time or money finding a cheap "quality" one. So I went with the Yildiz and couldn't be happier. I don't shoot more than 1,000 rounds a year, if that, so I doubt I'll wear it out.
By the way, I keep hearing about these mystical used Brownings, Berettas, etc. that are so cheap, but I can't ever find them. Sure, you may have found a great deal once, but they are not widespread, at least as far as I can tell. I don't have the time or the inclination to spend months searching every pawn shop or gun dealer in the state to save a few hundred bucks. I'd rather buy a gun and be shooting rather than trying to find a deal.
By the way, I keep hearing about these mystical used Brownings, Berettas, etc. that are so cheap, but I can't ever find them. Sure, you may have found a great deal once, but they are not widespread, at least as far as I can tell. I don't have the time or the inclination to spend months searching every pawn shop or gun dealer in the state to save a few hundred bucks. I'd rather buy a gun and be shooting rather than trying to find a deal.
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