looking for single action revolvers for cowboy mounted shooting

[9MMare]

Hi folks, almost time for first competition this yr and I cant find guns I can afford.

Please share any sites you know of where I may be able to find new or used single action revolvers, .45....in competition approved models.

Thanks very much!

 

[gacajun]

Not sure what your budget is, I bought a pair of Ruger single actions in .357 but they are available in .45. You can look at www.gunbroker.com for used weapons. Its like Ebay but for guns, you bid on the guns. I've bought a few other weapons off there with good results.

 

[9MMare]

Thanks GAcajun. Someone in another thread recommended a deal on gunbroker and I just ordered 2 new Uberti Cattleman Hombres in .45 LC. My mounted shooting club president checked out the ad and gave a thumbs up.

I'm psyched!

 

[Robert]

I cant find guns I can afford.

Here's hoping you already own a horse...

 

[9MMare]

Heh, yes Gus, I have a QH gelding who I retired from reining competition a few yrs ago. He's very well trained and took to mounted shooting well last yr.

But getting started is still expensive...leather, guns, chinks, ammo in bulk....

Hopin' to have fun!

 

[9MMare]

Got my Ubertis last week and should be practicing with them tomorrow!

 

[9MMare]

So some disappointment today with my new Ubertis.

I attempted to use my 2 new Uberti Cattleman Hombres today....I bought 2 on Gunbroker 2 weeks ago. Both seemed ok at home, I didnt have any ammo for them....they are for CMSA and we use blanks....got to practice today and the barrel was froze up.

At home I did a little dry firing, opened gates, rotated barrels, removed barrels, barrels moved smooothly. For one gun today, couldnt even get ammo into it...the barrel wouldnt move at all.

Had some of the more knowlegable people look at it. It wasnt an issue with the barrel, it was down in the action, something was preventing it from rotating. They worked it a bit and got it to move, but not reliably, certainly not reliably for a competition gun.

I guess I am on the phone to the dealer tomorrow. Not sure what to expect? Will they fix this gun or replace? One thing that bums me out is either way....another $40 FFL charge and probably shipping.

 

[Red Cent]

Please take this as constructive.

You removed the cylinders.

Sounds as if they froze after firing some rounds. A blackpowder revolver requires more clearance between the cylinder face and the barrel. May not be the reason they froze, but some remove a touch of metal off the barrel face. The barrel gap is not crucial when firing blackpowder blanks. However; if you do this, you will create a problem shooting live ammo.

When you cock the revolver, a "hand" moves up and out of the recoil shield catching the star on the back of the cylinder and rotates the cylinder. Remove the cylinder and look at the slot at about 3:00 on the face of the recoil shield. When you cock the revolver, does the hand appear and push upward?

The "bolt"/cylinder stop may be part of the problem. Pick up the revolver as if to shoot. (All warnings of a loaded weapon apply!!) Turn the gun upside down and point it to the left if your strong hand is the right hand. At the bottom of the cylinder you will see the bolt stop protruding from the frame and resting inside a cylinder notch. Keep the revolver upside down pointing in left, begin to cock the revolver. The bolt should start to disappear into the frame. When the next cylinder notch approaches the vicinity of the bolt stop, the bolt will pop up just prior to the notch finally seating and locking the cylinder. Timing and/or a spring could be the culprit if it does not function as stated.

Brand new, I am sure they will fix or replace. Borrow it if you have to, but get a pair of NM Rugers.

 

[Jeb21]

Sorry for your bad experience. I have three Ubertis and they are very reliable. I am sure that the company will make it right. Best of luck to you in your new sport.

 

[9MMare]

Please take this as constructive.

You removed the cylinders.

Sounds as if they froze after firing some rounds. A blackpowder revolver requires more clearance between the cylinder face and the barrel. May not be the reason they froze, but some remove a touch of metal off the barrel face. The barrel gap is not crucial when firing blackpowder blanks. However; if you do this, you will create a problem shooting live ammo.

When you cock the revolver, a "hand" moves up and out of the recoil shield catching the star on the back of the cylinder and rotates the cylinder. Remove the cylinder and look at the slot at about 3:00 on the face of the recoil shield. When you cock the revolver, does the hand appear and push upward?

The "bolt"/cylinder stop may be part of the problem. Pick up the revolver as if to shoot. (All warnings of a loaded weapon apply!!) Turn the gun upside down and point it to the left if your strong hand is the right hand. At the bottom of the cylinder you will see the bolt stop protruding from the frame and resting inside a cylinder notch. Keep the revolver upside down pointing in left, begin to cock the revolver. The bolt should start to disappear into the frame. When the next cylinder notch approaches the vicinity of the bolt stop, the bolt will pop up just prior to the notch finally seating and locking the cylinder. Timing and/or a spring could be the culprit if it does not function as stated.

Brand new, I am sure they will fix or replace. Borrow it if you have to, but get a pair of NM Rugers.

Well no, I wrote that I had no ammo and had not yet fired either gun. When I went to load it for the first time at practice, the barrel was frozen.

We did see the 'bolt' protruding upward....that is why the more experienced people said that it was the 'action'. (If I'm understanding you correctly).

The gun dealer is contacting Uberti tomorrow and will let me know who I should send the gun back to.

 

[9MMare]

Sorry for your bad experience. I have three Ubertis and they are very reliable. I am sure that the company will make it right. Best of luck to you in your new sport.

Good to hear, I'll try to remain positive.

 

[Red Cent]

9MMare, the barrel didn't freeze. The cylinder froze. Can't imagine weapons leaving the manufacturer that way. Stuff happens.

"We did see the 'bolt' protruding upward....that is why the more experienced people said that it was the 'action'. (If I'm understanding you correctly)."

The bolt always protrudes from the frame into a cylinder notch except when cocking the revolver. The hammer activates the hand which pushes/rotates the cylinder and the bolt will withdraw from the cylinder notch during this process.

Bummer.

 

[Red Cent]

This is an animated double action revolver; however, it shows the cocking action and being fired in the single action mode. Not exactly like a single action but the basics are the same.

http://www.genitron.com/Basics/Revolver/P2Revolver.html

 

[Red Cent]

Its a stretch but try this.
There is a pin (spring loaded-will not come out) just in front of the cylinder going left/right though the frame. Depress the pin and pull out the base pin an inch or so.

I believe those have the safety bar and some SAs have a feature hailed as a "safety" for storage. The rear of the base pin may be prohibiting the transfer bar from raising locking up the action.

You also state "Both seemed ok at home, ....". Did you cock them or rotate the cylinders?

 

[9MMare]

No you are right Red Cent....ugh, I meant the cylinder, not the barrel. Duh. And they said it wasnt the cylinder, it was the action. What you are saying about the pin, yes I removed the cylinder and put it back a time or 2 at home.

I did rotate the cylinder and do some dry firing at home. It didnt stop working until I tried to draw the hammer back to open the gate and load it at practice.....frozen.

And Uberti is sending me a Fed Ex label to return the gun to be fixed or replaced. So far, they are standing behind their gun.

Thanks. I hope I get it back before competition!

 

[Red Cent]

9MMare

Whatever happened with the SAs?