looking to buy rifle, first timer help!
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P.B.Walsh
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What's going to be the purpose of the rifle? Need more specifications, hunting, target, self defence? There's no one wonder-do-it-all-rifle.
I love a good Remington 700, but that rifle is my only centerfire rifle.
Oh...., and before I forget....., welcome to The High Road.
I love a good Remington 700, but that rifle is my only centerfire rifle.
Oh...., and before I forget....., welcome to The High Road.
gvnwst
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There are 10 main things we need to know before we can suggest anything:
1: your budget?
2: What is it for?
3: your budget?
4: What range?
5: your budget?
6: how much recoil can you stand?
7: your budget?
8: Do you plan on modding the thing?
9: your budget?
10: Do you reload?
1: your budget?
2: What is it for?
3: your budget?
4: What range?
5: your budget?
6: how much recoil can you stand?
7: your budget?
8: Do you plan on modding the thing?
9: your budget?
10: Do you reload?
tactikel
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For general use a bolt action in .223 (target, varmint, small deer) or .243 (varmint, deer, etc.) are hard to beat. look for sales, A Savage with the accutrigger is a fine (and affordable) choice. Almost any rifle will be more accurate than YOU are
Ammo for these cal. are easy to find, easy to reload, and will serve you for lifetime no matter what you endup doing.
More info on use will give us better feedback for you.
Ammo for these cal. are easy to find, easy to reload, and will serve you for lifetime no matter what you endup doing.
More info on use will give us better feedback for you.
rangerruck
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... and also, I would not forget budget.
for any entry level centerfire, I would say it is double tough to beat
a marlin right now... then of course you have savage, stevens, howa,
and mossberg all make a nice, accurate, entry level rifle.
for any entry level centerfire, I would say it is double tough to beat
a marlin right now... then of course you have savage, stevens, howa,
and mossberg all make a nice, accurate, entry level rifle.
jim in Anchorage
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Best quality Holland&Holland,cased with accessories in .375
P.B.Walsh
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Yea, a Holland&Holland rifle, make sure you got some $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!
Arkansas Paul
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As far as brands any of the quality name brands that you named are fine. It's all about what you like best. I prefer weatherby, but that's just one man's opinion. You'll have to decide that for yourself. As far as budget, most of the companies offer a high end model and an economical line.
Art Eatman
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If you're new to shooting rifles, my suggestion would be for a bolt-action .22 rimfire, and stay with iron sights for the first thousand rounds or so. Learn about sight picture, eye-finger coordination and that sort of thing.
Walk, then run. You don't go from a family sedan to an Indy car, either.
Walk, then run. You don't go from a family sedan to an Indy car, either.
czarjl
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+1 on the .22lr
P.B.Walsh
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+1 (again) on the .22lr.
+1 on a Holland & Holland magazine rifle, preferably in .375 H&H for maximum versatility. You can hunt any big game animal in the world with that. Here's the link.
Alternative suggestions:
(1) Mauser M98M, again in .375 H&H; or
(2) Rigby African Express Rifle, in .416 Rigby.
You'll also need a scope. I recommend either a Victory Diavari 1.5-6x42, or a Schmidt & Bender 1.5–6 x 42.
P.S. After you've made your purchase, please post some photos.
Alternative suggestions:
(1) Mauser M98M, again in .375 H&H; or
(2) Rigby African Express Rifle, in .416 Rigby.
You'll also need a scope. I recommend either a Victory Diavari 1.5-6x42, or a Schmidt & Bender 1.5–6 x 42.
P.S. After you've made your purchase, please post some photos.
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woof
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Anything other than the .22LR bolt action would be foolish.
P.B.Walsh
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I wonder how much that rig would cost Reid73?
ccsniper
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+1 .22 bolt action. but if you have had experience with guns then I'd say go with a remington 700 in 30-06. if you have a small budget, marlin xl7 in 30-06. but thats only if you have experience with guns. otherwise I'm still a big fan of .22 for first gun.
P.B.Walsh
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I can't belive the price of those rifles Reid73, who would pay that much for a rifle!!!!!
bigfatdave
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Art Eatman said:
What do you have against lever guns?woof said:
Of course starting out in 22LR is a good idea.
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I can't believe that some people expect to pay $300 for a highpower rifle and are then surprised when factory manufacturers cut corners through shoddy design, materials and construction.
nolateach might. Apparently money is no object: I didn't see any budget. Perhaps he's looking for something special.
They are all great rifles. The Mauser is the bargain on the bunch, at ~ $15,000.
All the goofy stuff aside,
You should probably start with RIM FIRE rifle.
That is like the .22LR (.22 caliber Long Rifle)
Cheap to shoot, don't have to pick up your brass since they are not reloadable,
Very little noise so it won't bust your ear drums,
Cheap ammo so it won't bust your wallet,
No recoil so it won't bust your shoulder.
Accurate out to about 50 yards off the shelf and a real blast to shoot!
Ammo runs about $5 for a box of 100 fairly good quality cartridges (CCI Mini-Mag brand)
.22 WMR (.22 Caliber Winchester Magnum Rifle, also just called .22 Mag a lot of times)
This is a rifle with some range to reach out to about 100 yards out of the box.
Ammo is a little more expensive, but for the extra range it's worth it.
This is an EXCELLENT small game rifle and fun to shoot on top of it all.
The new versions of rimfire rifles are the .17 M2 (.17 Caliber Mach II)
This is a .22 long rifle case necked down to .17 caliber bullet, and like the .22 LR, they are a blast to shoot, accurate out past 50 yards, but the ammo is somewhat expensive right now.
.17 HMR (.17 Caliber Hornady Magnum Rifle)
These are a .22 WMR (magnum) rifle case necked down to accept a .17 caliber bullet, and they are accurate out to about 100 to 150 yards, depending on what the weather is like and what ammo you are using.
Rounds are expensive as far as rimfires go, about $13 to $15 a box of 50.
If you decide to take on a rifle, get yourself a rim fire in one of these calibers and LEARN TO SHOOT CORRECTLY before you buy a center fire that is going to recoil and make you flinch...
Once you have mastered getting your rifle to steady,
Getting your trigger finger and eyeball to work together,
then consider getting a more powerful center fire rifle...
I still practice with a pellet rifle in the basement, and I burn up lots of .22 Long rifle and .17 cal rimfires at the range to keep my eye and hand working together when I drag out the big bore rifles.
If you buy something big to start with, all it will teach you is how to flinch and miss the target...
And once the flinch reflex is learned, it's VERY HARD to get over doing it!
Starting kids and women out on large handguns or booming rifles seems like fun...
But all these people are doing is teaching those women and kids how to flinch for the rest of their lives....
So,
Buy your self a pellet gun you can practice with indoors, when you can steady that gun, and control the trigger well enough to shoot one hole groups at 25 feet or so,
Then move up to a small bore rimfire rifle...
Once you have that small bore mastered,
Move up to some kind of center fire that doesn't abuse your shoulder or the muzzle blast make mush out of your brains every time you pull the trigger...
And learn to focus on the target, not the recoil or muzzle blast, you will do just fine!
You should probably start with RIM FIRE rifle.
That is like the .22LR (.22 caliber Long Rifle)
Cheap to shoot, don't have to pick up your brass since they are not reloadable,
Very little noise so it won't bust your ear drums,
Cheap ammo so it won't bust your wallet,
No recoil so it won't bust your shoulder.
Accurate out to about 50 yards off the shelf and a real blast to shoot!
Ammo runs about $5 for a box of 100 fairly good quality cartridges (CCI Mini-Mag brand)
.22 WMR (.22 Caliber Winchester Magnum Rifle, also just called .22 Mag a lot of times)
This is a rifle with some range to reach out to about 100 yards out of the box.
Ammo is a little more expensive, but for the extra range it's worth it.
This is an EXCELLENT small game rifle and fun to shoot on top of it all.
The new versions of rimfire rifles are the .17 M2 (.17 Caliber Mach II)
This is a .22 long rifle case necked down to .17 caliber bullet, and like the .22 LR, they are a blast to shoot, accurate out past 50 yards, but the ammo is somewhat expensive right now.
.17 HMR (.17 Caliber Hornady Magnum Rifle)
These are a .22 WMR (magnum) rifle case necked down to accept a .17 caliber bullet, and they are accurate out to about 100 to 150 yards, depending on what the weather is like and what ammo you are using.
Rounds are expensive as far as rimfires go, about $13 to $15 a box of 50.
If you decide to take on a rifle, get yourself a rim fire in one of these calibers and LEARN TO SHOOT CORRECTLY before you buy a center fire that is going to recoil and make you flinch...
Once you have mastered getting your rifle to steady,
Getting your trigger finger and eyeball to work together,
then consider getting a more powerful center fire rifle...
I still practice with a pellet rifle in the basement, and I burn up lots of .22 Long rifle and .17 cal rimfires at the range to keep my eye and hand working together when I drag out the big bore rifles.
If you buy something big to start with, all it will teach you is how to flinch and miss the target...
And once the flinch reflex is learned, it's VERY HARD to get over doing it!
Starting kids and women out on large handguns or booming rifles seems like fun...
But all these people are doing is teaching those women and kids how to flinch for the rest of their lives....
So,
Buy your self a pellet gun you can practice with indoors, when you can steady that gun, and control the trigger well enough to shoot one hole groups at 25 feet or so,
Then move up to a small bore rimfire rifle...
Once you have that small bore mastered,
Move up to some kind of center fire that doesn't abuse your shoulder or the muzzle blast make mush out of your brains every time you pull the trigger...
And learn to focus on the target, not the recoil or muzzle blast, you will do just fine!
woof
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I have nothing against lever .22s but I just believe the .22 bolt is the foundation gun that works best to learn from. I teaches the new shooter about the mechanics of how a rifle works, it forces a slow and deliberate operation, and it gives maximum accuracy and reliability for the dollar. I love levers, have a Henry and a Marlin 39.
P.B.Walsh
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Dude, TeamRush, you said it all right there!!!!!
The OP needs to read that, I wonder if he/she reads their own thread, because I haven't seen his name in a while.
The OP needs to read that, I wonder if he/she reads their own thread, because I haven't seen his name in a while.
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